Shocker_NA

Enough of this civilized discussion crap...

I want to see name calling, mud slinging, random "yo mamma" jokes...give the people what they want dammit!

is silent still talking?

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Not to nitpick or start fights (though that's already been done, forum PvP for the win eh?), but:

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Caging, as it is now, is really really dumb.

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Don't get me wrong, subjective opinions are fine, but it doesn't do an awful lot of good in furthering your point when you try to use them to, well, further your point. The fact that cages aren't fun for the people being caged, should be irrelevant to this discussion. That's the whole point of objective rules.

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The argument that keeping someone perma-dead does the same thing is ridiculous. There are counters to being killed. There is no direct counter to being perma-caged.

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On the contrary, there are counters, which are nearly identical in nature though require a bit more "extreme" effort and good timing: phasing, high amounts of defense / toHit buffs on the opponents, general evasion and staying out of range, et cetera.

I can see someone pointing out, "Well, those counters are way more extreme and difficult to perform," which isn't a valid counterargument because it's not like there are objective match-deciding points for caging players like there are for defeating players.

Furthermore, a lot of the arguments "against" cages in general seem to point out how amazingly broken and powerful the cage is. Such an argument is self-defeating in actual practice... yeah, people have said "why don't you run 8 cagers if they're so good?", which led to sarcastic "we never thought of that before" responses, but seriously: if it's as brokenly good as you claim it is, why not run 8 cagers?

...You don't, because bringing a cager inherently has costs associated with it that make bringing more than "a few" impractical. It balances itself out; all that remains is to learn how to counter the lineups that you face.

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you use your mouth prettier than a 20 dollar [censored]

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Hey r0x remember when I helped you with your homework?

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yes, i always go to the asians for help

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Even for help with driving?

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update

@Demonic
@Demonic Obliteration
@Cinder Viper
@Gramma Mim
@Jef90
@Jimmay Dean1
@Doppleganker
@Necroshade
@RogueKnight - Leader
@RogueKnight2 - Leader
@Mr. Shocker - Leader
@Mr. Minmax - Leader
@Israel
@Venezuela
@mm3 squints
@Strike Flame - Leader
@Strike Flame2 - Leader
@Hotshy
@Plutonic Flame
@Sonic Story
@jewel of oa
@Sexeh Toons
@Diamondgirl
@jefninety
@Rewire
@nub thit
@nevva toast1
@grampa pip
@Flaming Forester
@Bananaboat
@I Eat Babies Yo
@Chaos King


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updated

@Demonic
@Demonic Obliteration
@Cinder Viper
@Gramma Mim
@Jef90
@Jimmay Dean1
@Doppleganker
@Necroshade
@RogueKnight - Leader
@RogueKnight2 - Leader
@Mr. Shocker - Leader
@Mr. Minmax - Leader
@Israel
@Venezuela
@mm3 squints
@Strike Flame - Leader
@Strike Flame2 - Leader
@Hotshy
@Plutonic Flame
@Sonic Story
@jewel of oa
@Sexeh Toons
@Diamondgirl
@jefninety
@Rewire

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gays

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get a room you two

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Please Remove:

@not Putzing
@Mykonos
@Panny Nanny
@Ed-Wreck
@Ed-Wrecked
@Still Not Putzing
@HoJ 619

Thank you

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hmmmm

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If you guys didn't change the rules and fight accordingly, that is not anyone's problem but your own.


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fixed for accuracy

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Who the hell cares?

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You seem to, or else you wouldn't have manipulated the rules to get to #1. You can throw out all the ifs you want to, but the bottom line is you did not get the top seed by earning it according to the rules, your record is 4-1 at best (4-2 if you go by official rules). Try and justify it all you want, but you're still wrong.

You don't seem to get it though...its not the fact that you're the #1 seed at the start, its the fact that you say it doesn't matter but yet manipulated things in order to get the pole position. I don't think that any other SGs really care that you're at the top right now, its how you got there and the BS you're throwing around to justify it. That's what people are calling you on.

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This means a match was "scheduled", listed, and after 15 minutes of no-show, was concluded

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I don't understand the reasoning behind the "if a match doesn't happen, its a loss for both" rule. So it does seem wrong to say JAL is 4-2. But I know that you should not be able to claim their no show as a victory either. There was no set time and date for you to fight ESK and simply listing the match doesn't make it so. Perhaps you shouldn't be 4-2, but claiming 5-1 is incorrect.

True, it really doesn't matter....and cinder still sucks

Maybe just a margin of victory, you know like if the score is 10-5 it is 50%, if its 10-0 its 100% and if its 100-0 its still 100%. This way you don't get anything extra for a higher kill count. Of course, the percentages could still be misleading if it is a low scoring match. So maybe just use a percentage of victory if the overall score is over 20 or something???

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Not to mention, our match with OS was 8-5...so, yeah, we're really running up the scoreboard.


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are you suggesting that you could have run the score up on us if you wanted to?

veil was one of the guys that really helped us get our feet off the ground in higher level PVP. Up until the time he joined, we pretty much stuck to Triumph. Some of us ventured to Test, but not as a priority and not as an SG. At the time we were not as competitive (both skill wise and mindset) as he was looking for so he went to HVND, parting on good terms. So even though he was an HVNDer, I will always consider him a part of Old School as well. And I know that any accomplishments that may come our way in Test PVP, he played a major role. Peace brother

Bah, I was out of town most of the week....but great job all

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GODSEND has a website now-- if anyone is interested pls go to www.godsendsupergroup.com ty

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any pics?

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Blasters do the most damage but can get hit with the least so there need to be other forms of aggro besides just damage otherwise the blasters are always the source of aggro or they are forced to use their smaller damage single target only and then what are they really providing to the group.

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Actually, single target attacks are stronger than AoE attacks on a per target basis. All things being equal. But if one has say Fire Ball 6 slotted and Blaze only 2 slotted then I see your point. However that is something that could be changed on respec or next time slots are available so that does not mean you aren't viable in a group. So using single target attacks in a group does not mean we aren't really bringing anything to the table. I use my AoE all the time in groups and the only time I get in trouble is when I use it at the wrong time. That is a mental mistake, not an issue with the AT.