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What have I asked for in my entire history here?


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Geko's resignation.

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Geko was responsible for the implementation of a patch that killed this game for me and my SG.

Shall we fire the janitor when the Space Shuttle explodes? No.

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Uh oh, Revolution Pr0 was just trying to martyr himself for our benefit people.

WHY DID WE NOT LISTEN TO HIM?

Oh, that's right: all the self-indulgent ranting that made up 99% of his posts.

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Prove it.

Lets end the unending festival of negative opinion on me.

If you wish to continue to flame me I suggest you start backing it up.

At this point I'm about half a minute from reporting this thread to a moderator and having it locked for violations of the EULA. I have been discussing things up until this point to attempt to get people to see that while they may not agree with my point of view, it is my point of view.

Quite simply I am getting tired of the insults and I am getting tired of the thinly veiled barbs and I'm about to take things up with the moderators of this board to put an end to it.

Find one post I've made thats full of 99% mindless self indulgent ranting. Taser. Find one thread that I've made thats full of this much venom and hate towards someone or ANYONE specifically.

Not even my post calling for Geko's resignation comes close to the amount of personal insult and hatred you people are directing at me here.

So prove it. Or please, kindly, shut the hell up. Because I think you'll find that your "facts" are in error. Much like apparently mine always are.

I don't think I've got much doomsaying to say really.

Doomsaying would indicate that I'm saying the game is failing.

I've said several times that its not failing, that its simply failing to meet MY expectations, which does not, overall, indicate doom.

Just personal dissatisfaction.

What have I asked for in my entire history here?

An end to nerfs.

More ME stuff in the game so your character feels more like they live there instead of being a tourist.

Better tankers and scrappers.

More costume options.

And once again, people hate me because those are things that I want in the game....when I ask for them...these are the kinds of reactions I get.

Which just confuses me completely. Because I've never seen a community that would actually reject more stuff in their game of choice.

And to further refine someone elses statement, this entire thread wasn't "troll bait" it was trolling, plain and simple.

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Well didn't you think that maybe some of the people you folks were having so much fun making fun of might happen to still be around? Or possibly take offense?

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If you could come back and gloat that you were right, maybe ... but you, and the others mentioned, arn't close to being right.

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I mean, as far as I can tell this entire thread is a violation of the EULA..but even Statesman is in it making snide comments about people. So I guess that makes it okay.

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Up untill you showed up, we were just remembering the los ... err ... various Doomsayers that have come and gone.

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I mean, I'm not supposed to take offense? I've come up numerous times under three different forum names (though I'm sure that if I, and everyone else for that matter, could remember my beta forum name, it would have been four) and none of the commentary has been very positive.

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I have to wonder why you feel the need to change your name other than to make you position stranger. "Look, all these other poeple agree with me" type of thing.

And then come back to a gain you feel has no future, lame would ba an improvement.

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And I'm just supposed to not respond and let you get on with your viciously making fun of people? When I am one of the people involved?

I think not sir.

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I think it's call satire ... or Irony ... or Nerf ... not sure, definitions of works change so often in this day and age.

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Actually I changed my name on the forums for one reason only...because for some reason after returning after leaving, Diva's forum account was inaccessible and my email had changed since then so recovering it was impossible.

So I just used Backagain when I returned then I changed it to Revolution_Pr0 because Backagain didn't really mean anything.

Regardless...even you said it here "remembering the various los..." come on dude. Don't pee on my back and tell me its raining. Its just insulting.

Ya'll are doing something that is specifically forbidden on this forum..and its been encouraged by the leading figure of the development team.

And then you want to yell at me for being a troll. Come on. Man up and take responsibility for your actions.

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I like the fact the he repeated he has a friend. Something I highly doubtful.

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Was that really needed, Doc_D?

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Uh ... yeah. Kinda sorta.

Look, if he wants to post trollish posts, fine. He can make his own thread about how "Doomed" CoH is. But to come in here, a joke thread about Doom thread, and ruin it's jokeyness, not fine. I'm not going to let him ruin the fun with out poking him, repeatedly, with a stick.

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Well didn't you think that maybe some of the people you folks were having so much fun making fun of might happen to still be around? Or possibly take offense?

I mean, as far as I can tell this entire thread is a violation of the EULA..but even Statesman is in it making snide comments about people. So I guess that makes it okay.

I mean, I'm not supposed to take offense? I've come up numerous times under three different forum names (though I'm sure that if I, and everyone else for that matter, could remember my beta forum name, it would have been four) and none of the commentary has been very positive.

And I'm just supposed to not respond and let you get on with your viciously making fun of people? When I am one of the people involved?

I think not sir.

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You're not wrong, neither am I really. Its really not a fact we can prove to one side or the other, they are simply both opinions and I'm merely stating mine is all.


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Then, for the love of god, SAY it's your opinion.

In the post I responded to, you used blanket terms such as "CoH HASN'T made any new customers" or "The only people who play CoH are ones with PC backgrounds."

You did this before, too: say something as if it's fact and then, when people proved you wrong, went back and whined that it was just an opinion. If it's an opinion, then use "It is my belief that CoH hasn't made any new customers, they just siphoned it off others" not "CoH just siphons off other MMORPGs."

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Everything I say is my opinion. Except in stated cases when I say I believe I am speaking for more than myself.

I'm sure from my use of verbiage and the way I present myself, people can assume I am assuming some form of authority on a subject. This is not the case, it never has been.

Often, in my history on this forum, most of the reaction to what I have to say is not as much to the package as it is to the wrapper it comes in. And unfortunatly thats just the way things are. I am me, this is how I express myself and unfortunatly I really can't take credit for the way you personally react to it.

I cannot sanitize my every word for hopes that someone will not mistakenly assume I'm saying something other than what I'm saying. So I won't bother.

Just do me the same respect you expect for yourself. Don't assume. If I was to make assumptions of you, you'd go ballistic on me...just like Kali, and tell me that I was mistaking their intention or some such nonesense.

But its okay for you to tell me that I must censor and qualify my every statement to ensure YOU don't make the same kind of assumptions?

Come on Taser, surely you can see how illogical that is?

I've heard it alot around here, Arucard most recently said it "Don't assume to speak for anyone but yourself."...but that only seems to apply to me. Assuming amongst what I have to say is okay I guess.

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I like the fact the he repeated he has a friend. Something I highly doubtful.

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Was that really needed, Doc_D?

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Not really no. Petty indeed.

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Revolution, I'm proving you wrong with the biggest fact of all: I'm here.

Before CoH, I was a Mac user who only really played PS2 games. Because of CoH, I bought a PC, a graphic card, and have been here for over a year ever since.

So no, you're wrong. Very wrong.

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I'm not saying it can't happen. I'm just of the opinion that the largest part of CoH's subscriber base is from the pre-existing demographic. All games will create a small number of new PC gamers. I didn't even play games online until Quake came out...thusly Id Software is responsible for bringing me into the PC gamer demographic, SOE is responsible for making me an MMO player. Regardless, I simply believe that the largest bulk of CoH players is from the pre-existing PC gamer market and the ones they kept are the comic book fans from that demographic.

You're not wrong, neither am I really. Its really not a fact we can prove to one side or the other, they are simply both opinions and I'm merely stating mine is all.

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You've joined zzMDude on my ignore list...have a nice day.

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BURRRRRRN!

But, saying that CoH is NC Soft's most disappointing title to date is kind of ingenuine. It's like someone who's pro-Atari attacking Ninteno back in the day because Donkey Kong did better in the arcades than Mario Bros did after a year on Nintendo. NC Soft's other games benefitted, as you stated, from Korean accounts that are specific to their region. CoH, on the other hand, didn't have the millions of people paying to play for just an hour to be considered an "active" user. They started in America and went to Korea. It's not like Lineage I or II are lighting the game magazines on fire over here with their American success.

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Well I agree there somewhat. Against Lineage and L2's rather ingeniune subscription numbers its harsh to say CoH is its most dissapointing title to date.

Regardless in pure numbers it is. Its been a success in its own market. It hasn't created any new customers. The people that play CoH still, religiously, are by and large comic book fans with a background in PC gaming. Lots of folks here have probably even played Freedom Force...which is a niche title if I could ever drop a more approprite name.

CoH didn't reach out to and keep new MMO customers, like someone else mentioned. It didn't create a market, all it did was siphon off an existing demographic that was already out there amongst SOE's titles...which is the comic book nerd/table top RPG geek demographic that we're all more or less a part of.

And for there to have been any less than 100,000 people that would have fallen into that demographic would surprise me really. I said 30,000 in my intial reply because overall it just seemed really empty out there while I've been on my server. It could just be that Triumph is pretty dead and its a vacation weekend and what not..couldn't say, but it was odd running around Bricks and Founders Falls and not seeing heroes all over the place...I just saw like two or three at the green line and that was it and a person or two in Icon here and there. Mostly it wasn't as busy as I remembered it so I just threw out a number that sounded reasonable to me.

Of course, for me, its hard to come to grips with the fact that WoW does have 1.5 million people playing it. Its just mind boggling to consider those kinds of numbers really. I tend to low ball subscription numbers in my head simply because I can't concieve of the population of a major metropolitan city playing an MMO....being an old old salt gaming wise..its just amazing how big the industry has become since say...Space Invaders.

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Of course, you're right.

And since that statement is about as geniune as any of yours in the previous quote, would you now kindly just go away since you got what you wanted?

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I don't believe you have the ability to be that genuine around here.

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You're right Kali. About everything. You win.

Now wander off and wrap yourself up in your "I'm always right" blanket and be cool.

Because its quite obvious you'll twist everything I say to make yourself seem right.

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What, you mean I'll do something like quote where you attacked one of my arguments, and then try to turn it around so that it sounds like you actually attacked me?

Well, I don't need to do that, because you have actually attacked me (called me a troll several times, for example, simply for disagreeing with you).

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And I'm not going to disagree with you any more because having a one sided argument is pointless.

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It almost looked like you caught on to the fatal flaw in your conversation, but then you say...

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There are people in the thread making valid contributions and as you can see..I am actively discussing various subjects with them.

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...and it becomes clear you're still on an imaginary page.

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You aren't doing much other than stroking your own ego, and really, that kind of thing should be done in private. Don't you think?

Ta now.

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I'm making jokes, quoting Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, and pointing out that your doomsaying is silly.

Believe me, the ability to best you in an argument is not grounds for anyone to puff up their own ego.

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You've bested nothing.

You simply twist everything I say. Thats all you do.

You've joined zzMDude on my ignore list...have a nice day.

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Well, I tried to work it in, but I simply could not communicate the sheer bozosity involved.

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Now I realize bozosity isn't actually a word. But are you really going to try to get off on a technicality here?

Bozosity, indicating that everything in the post was written by a bozo..ergo, I am a bozo.

Bozo = clown, or someone not taken seriously, or someone that is seen to be mentally inferior or absolutely dumb.

So thusly you've called me a stupid idiot. Simply because you disagree with what I have to say.


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That's a bit of a stretch, unless every single criticism of every single argument ever is by definition extended to the arguer's person as well. I mean, I'm sure you believe that about responses to your argument. That you had to take four sentences to change what I said into something different is pretty sad.

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Now. Was there anything else you needed cleared up? Shall I draw you a picture?

And your memory of the resignation post aside, community impression of what I had to say doesn't change the fact that the post was respectfully written, did not descend into screaming and temper tantrums (well at least until you folks got involved) and regardless of how disrespectful you choose to maintain calling for someones resignation was...it doesn't change the fact that the post itself was very respectful and well written, rounding out my thoughts and feelings on the overall change.

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And whether or not it was respectfully written (something that I don't think anyone here is going to buy), you completely undermined it by demanding that Geko give up his job. You must be a riot when they get your order wrong at Burger King.

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And you just keep clinging to that "partially" rolled back explanation.

I sure don't seem to have any problems with purples today. Sort of feels like old times to me.

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Because the numbers are not the same as they were before the purple patch? The point at which it becomes nearly impossible to fight villains is not at the point where they con as purple, but is lower than where it was pre-patch. That's what "partially rolled back" means in this context.

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What else would you like me to correct you on Kali? Feel free, I've got plenty of time.

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"What else" implies anything has been corrected so far. If you were even half as informed as you pretend to be, we wouldn't be having these conversations.

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Of course, you're right.

And since that statement is about as geniune as any of yours in the previous quote, would you now kindly just go away since you got what you wanted?

You're right Kali. About everything. You win.

Now wander off and wrap yourself up in your "I'm always right" blanket and be cool.

Because its quite obvious you'll twist everything I say to make yourself seem right.

And I'm not going to disagree with you any more because having a one sided argument is pointless.

There are people in the thread making valid contributions and as you can see..I am actively discussing various subjects with them.

You aren't doing much other than stroking your own ego, and really, that kind of thing should be done in private. Don't you think?

Ta now.

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Well, I tried to work it in, but I simply could not communicate the sheer bozosity involved.

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Now I realize bozosity isn't actually a word. But are you really going to try to get off on a technicality here?

Bozosity, indicating that everything in the post was written by a bozo..ergo, I am a bozo.

Bozo = clown, or someone not taken seriously, or someone that is seen to be mentally inferior or absolutely dumb.

So thusly you've called me a stupid idiot. Simply because you disagree with what I have to say.

Now. Was there anything else you needed cleared up? Shall I draw you a picture?

And your memory of the resignation post aside, community impression of what I had to say doesn't change the fact that the post was respectfully written, did not descend into screaming and temper tantrums (well at least until you folks got involved) and regardless of how disrespectful you choose to maintain calling for someones resignation was...it doesn't change the fact that the post itself was very respectful and well written, rounding out my thoughts and feelings on the overall change.

And you just keep clinging to that "partially" rolled back explanation.

I sure don't seem to have any problems with purples today. Sort of feels like old times to me.

What else would you like me to correct you on Kali? Feel free, I've got plenty of time.

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Could we possibly stop making the post about ME?

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But that's what the original post was about. YOUR feelings on the subject, what YOU think about it. Even the topic points out that YOU think something is funny. And demonstrating a complete disregard for what other people think about it.

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No, its about the topic.

I'm not going to get roped into arguments and long processes of attempting to defend myself against people that don't care what I have to say about my intentions, they just want to see me react.

The subject is the Issue 4 anime debate. Run with it, or let the post die....I really don't care one way or another.

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I don't purposefully present myself confrontationally.

People disagree with me and somehow take it personally when I debate their viewpoints with my own.

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And almost everyone that responds in support of the idea has an avatar from an anime series.

"Oh just have some faith, you might like it." "Oh you just haven't seen good anime."

Blah blah blah. I mean really, I've been hearing this style of argument since I was like....4 and I didn't like asparagus and my grandmother assured me that I'd like it if I just tried it.

So I guess what I'm saying here is its great that some people are getting what they want. But the whole "Just try it, you'll like it" argument isn't very fair. Its 25 years later and I still don't like asparagus yanno.

Its not very considerate to tell people that they're "lucky to be getting anything at all." when your greatest wish has been granted.

Its sort of like gloating. Really.

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Then your response to someone with an anime avatar:

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You don't care that someone else might be dissapointed because you are not. I on the other hand, are more considerate of people around me, so I do care that some people might be dissapointed.

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Do you realize that you start out by accusing those who disagree with you of being selfish, self-centered and callous?

Starting at the point that you do, do you see why some people may have taken your post personally?

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Could we possibly stop making the post about ME?

Thank you. There is a topic to the post. Either let it die or discuss the topic.

I don't use the CoH forums, or any other forum for that matter, for all the qualified psychiatrists and psychologists that participate in them. Don't analyze me...analyze the topic of the post. Thats all you have to do.

Yes the Pandaren was quite cool. He worked well with the Tauren Warchief online.

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You seem to do a lot of assuming. Your whole reason for complaining is based solely on your assumption that only anime inspired elements will be added. I can understand your reservations if the thought of anime inspired fashion only makes you think of Pokemon, Love Hina, and DBZ, but there are some really fine designs out there too. Why not just wait until the issue is released and actually seeing what it has to offer rather than just making assumptions.

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Well largely because assuming is the natural way of considering the future. Since it hasn't happened yet, we must assume when speculating on it.

And anyways, your avatar looks like a pandaren brewmaster, I rather doubt any of the additions would dissapoint you sir, they'd only make you even more able to emulate a pandaren.

If thats not a pandaren brewmaster, excuse my thinking so. But I keep expecting to see your avatar throw a mug of ale.

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Then you shouldn't be posting your speculations as if they're facts. Before I3 I didn't think I would like the Kheldians but I didn't start a thread complaining about them either. Turns out I don't like them so I don't have one, no big deal. I'm sure there will be many of the new costume options I won't like either, anime or not, just like I don't care for many of the current options, so I don't use them, again, no big deal.

I've never heard of a pandaren brewmaster and have no idea what game or whatever your getting it from. I designed that character after the Pandas in the Stonebrunt Mountains in EQ and added the coolie and belt because it's a katana scrapper and fits the theme. See, you're making assumptions about me and things I like based solely on a pic of a character I play in a video game. Seems kind of shallow, don't you think? I also have a robot character, a native american character, a character possessed by the spirit of a fallen knight, and a mutant character. What sort of narrow minded asumptions are you going to make about me based on that?

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Okay you just want to fight obviously.

Sorry I mentioned you looked like a pandaren brewmaster. God.

I'll do as I like. Don't you ever tell me what I should and should not do.

Now bugger off. You're bringing nothing to the discussion except random anger and personal attacks and I've had just about enough of that today.

I agree, Arucard I think you're being far too generous.

I'm still seeing Wolverine clones to this day.

If you think we're not going to be overrun by super saiyans, you sir, are definitely on the Dyne.

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I don't know if this has been mentioned..but are you considering what "anime costumes" mean? Yes, in anime there are a lot of school girl uniforms, yukutas, kimonos and other tradtional Japanese clothing..but there's also sub genres in anime such as mecha. Have you ever seen Gundam Wing? Mecha are robots and technical things like that..perhaps that is included?

There's also so many other different types of "anime" costumes..not everything is Sailor Moon or Dragon Ball Z. Take a look at Gundam Wing, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop.. those are more science fiction/modern than traditional Japanese dress.

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Oh I'm aware of this too. But Mecha? I think thats a hopeful thought, but regardless we already have several options that translate to mecha roughly and I don't use any of them either really. As I've said I'm speculating against the worst case scenario in most cases, mostly because force of habit has taught me to...so I'll be pleasantly surprised when I get more than expected.

Its sort of like a conscious process of pro-actively lowering my expectations so pretty much anything looks better than what I've considered.

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You seem to do a lot of assuming. Your whole reason for complaining is based solely on your assumption that only anime inspired elements will be added. I can understand your reservations if the thought of anime inspired fashion only makes you think of Pokemon, Love Hina, and DBZ, but there are some really fine designs out there too. Why not just wait until the issue is released and actually seeing what it has to offer rather than just making assumptions.

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Well largely because assuming is the natural way of considering the future. Since it hasn't happened yet, we must assume when speculating on it.

And anyways, your avatar looks like a pandaren brewmaster, I rather doubt any of the additions would dissapoint you sir, they'd only make you even more able to emulate a pandaren.

If thats not a pandaren brewmaster, excuse my thinking so. But I keep expecting to see your avatar throw a mug of ale.

I don't think I'm whining for nothing.

Other than the people that took the thread as an opportunity to make personal cracks at me, we had some fairly good discussions and even Statesman came out to say that a January 2006 speculation for Issue 5 was very pessimistic indeed.

So irregardless of people whining about whiners whining, I fufill my function as devils advocate very well.

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And thats sad. A whole year of people clamoring for more costumes...and what we're seeing isn't what we wanted.


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BTW, could you wait until April 28th - y'know the launch date of CoH - to continue talking about CoH being out a whole year. Every time you state that CoH has been out a whole year, it makes it difficult to consider anything you write after that, because it's not truth, it's exaggeration. Par for the course for you, but I really do try to take you seriously. You don't come off ignorant, just willfully negative in the face of anything positive. OH! Maybe you're a school teacher and you only work nine months a year. So a nine months really is a fiscal year for you. Is that it? Cuz a lot of us don't get the summer off. Your confusion of what is reality makes for entertaining but head-scratching posts.

Also, I realize some people have been asking about new costume options for some time, but "clamoring" for a whole year? Can we get some made up statistics at least? Y'know, for giggles. I know you haven't because you took several months off to have fun with the new fantasy MMO's out there.

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But if what we've seen is the weathervane of what is in total...then this costume update isn't about rewarding us at all...its about exploiting a new market and thats it.

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Hahahaha... Only on Planet Backagain. You're doing this because you're bored, right? Playing a little 'pull my finger' in the forums to break the monotony?

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I'm just trying to point out that new costumes have been pretty high on the wish list for a long time and they've mostly been ignored, and for all intents and purposes..they're still being ignored.

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Oh and to make sure you see that I don't just skim posts. I am surmising that the actual release date for Issue 4 will coincide somewhere around the actual Anniversary.

So, I am internally assuming that it will be April before we get this latest new addition, which effectively and accurately makes it 1 year of waiting for new costumes before we get any at all.

I can see the point you're trying to make, but I'm not in so much exaggerating as I'm operating on the assumption Issue 4 will not release til April.

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Issue 5, in my opinion..is a long way off, somewhere around next January.

So Issue 4 is technically the last free update we'll see til after CoV is live.

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I'm not known for clear answers, but I'll break with tradition and just say...

Nope. Issue 5 WILL come out earlier than next January.

And there are TWO development teams within Cryptic - one on City of Heroes and one on City of Villains.

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EXT. SPACE
As the words "There are TWO" are intoned, Planet Backagain is cleaved in two, resulting in a cataclysmic explosion.

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Tha body of Backagain spinning in the void, clawing at his eyes.

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A tad bit overdramatic Clintonian. If you'd actually done more than skimmed the post you'd have noticed Stellus appraised me of the fact that they had two teams working the two games back on like..page one, which pretty much nullified my original statement that CoV could possibly put new content updates on the back burner.

I wasn't around during the fall last year, so I wasn't aware of this and was operating on last known good information when I surmised such.

Anyways. Appreciate the response Statesman. I suppose knowing for sure that content updates won't suffer this year is as good as we can get really. So I appreciate the Statement©.

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ladies and gentlemen, please greet our new puffy shirt!

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NOOOO! You dare not speak that name here! Defiler!



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I'm afraid I'm lost on the Puffy Shirt comment.

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PuffyShirt was a poster here on the forums way back in the beginning. He was definitely around for the last month of beta, and I'm not sure if he stuck around for the actual release.

He was, in all sense of the word, a complete and utter troll. THE perfect example of one, actually. He was competent enough to write and express himself properly, so you couldn't just write him off as some dumb kid. He did nothing but complain (and I mean COMPLAIN... not a single thing he ever said could be construed as positive in any way), he was straight out offensive to anyone who disagreed, he would actively try to derail threads, etc etc. You get the point.

His tenure on the boards ended when someone made a post that had a title similar to "PuffyShirt should be banned from the forums." Everyone and their mother commented on this, and he spent the whole time arguing and insulting. Finally he just went away.

When someone calls you "the next PuffyShirt" it sure as hell isn't meant as a compliment. It basically labels you as a moderately intelligent troll who whines incessently and contributes nothing whatsoever to the community.

PLEASE TAKE NOTE: I am not expressing a personal opinion of you. That is how most everyone feels about PuffyShirt. If Brawl called you "the next PuffyShirt" I assume, however, that is how he thinks of you.

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Well I think people make others out to whatever they want them to be really.

I was on the beta boards for about a month, but I didn't use them much back then, I was too busy in game going "Wow" all the time.

I think if you think about it, theres not much else I could do but be seen to complain. I've explained this. I've said that theres alot about the game I like...and the only things I feel the need to take to the forum are the things I don't.

So yes, it looks like all I do is complain, unless you read the thread where I specifically took the time to list out what I like.

But no one cares about that. "All you do is complain Backagain! That post where you said you like this and that doesn't count!"

And thats people for you. They are largely reactive creatures. They don't really care about the message, they just want to be better than the messenger.

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I don't purposefully present myself confrontationally.

People disagree with me and somehow take it personally when I debate their viewpoints with my own.

Anyways I could go through this thread and point out all the times that I've said "I don't think its bad that we're getting anime costumes...." and "this is only my opinion" and "well this is what I think." and "I'm not saying you're wrong." and "its possible that I could be wrong."

So exactly how subserviant to I have to be to not be confrontational? Because thats apparently what you want. You want me to not argue my point of view at all. You want me to not say anything if someone posts with an opposing viewpoint apparently.

Because thats apparently all I could do to not be seen as confrontational. Because I've already gone out of my way to try to NOT be confrontational and to ensure people know that I'm just expressing my thoughts and views.

So, I don't think the problem is so much what I'm saying or how I say it...but in how you choose to hear it. And on a forum thats simply rife with trolls, I can see why you'd be so defensive to start...and given the fact that my name alone seems to rate a one star rating for everything I post, I can see why you'd come in with the predisposed notion that I'm being confrontational.

Ah well, damned if you do, damned if you don't as they say.

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Rrrrrright. Ignoring the "Help! I'm being oppressed!" tone you so often like to take, I came in with no preconceived notions of you. But I can read, and most of what you've posted in the short time I've been here has been either negative, closed-minded, or over-the-top defensive. In another thread where someone wrote a lengthy post wondering why so many people were complaining about Issue 4, you went so far as to call the person a fascist, claiming that they were trying to take away your right to state your opinion. Then you turn around and post what is essentially the same message here, except reversed to your point of view. Follow that up with a bunch of blanket statements like "most of us are going to be disappointed" and wild speculation about the update schedule that you present as facts until someone calls you on them. Then you throw in the "I thinks" and "my opinions," which only seem to be a method of strategic retreat in your lexicon.

Furthermore, you continually say that you've been waiting a long time for new costume choices but never make it so far as actually saying what would interest you. We're on Page 8 now, and you've made a tentative step in that direction, but so far all you've done is tell us how unfair it is that this one section of fans gets what they want, but you and this "the rest of us" will be incredibly disappointed...disregarding the fact that most of the rest of us keep trying to tell you that we will feel otherwise.

But this is defensible in your mind because we're just "perceiving" you wrong...everyone who's disagreed with you or called you a troll or dared insinuate that you have no right to expression. A wide variety of people from an equally varied set of experiences and values have all somehow gotten the same wrong idea about you. That's a one-in-a-million shot, ain't it?

And honestly? None of us have any right to post here, whatever it may be. Cryptic could say "To heck with forums!" tomorrow and yank the whole thing down. Statesman could come in here, point out any one of us and say, "Ban him/her." It wouldn't be nice, and we would certainly cancel our account in anger over the whole thing, but Cryptic owns the place, so if they wanted nothing but the letter "E" posted here, then that's what would happen. Expression at a privately-owned forum is a privilege, not a right. I too believe very heavily in freedom of expression, but there is absolutely nothing anyone here can do to you to take that away from you. Nothing. Even a banned person can go and start another website to scream their opinion from the mountaintop for all to hear.

In the meantime, you can post whatever you want, and none of us can stop you, although I'd assume some of us would like to try. But expect to continue being ignored, called a troll, and categorically dismissed because you generally refuse to contribute anything constructive or positive even though it seems like you are in a position to do so. More flies with honey than vinegar...and I can't imagine you want people to not listen to you or take you seriously.


Anyway. I will be enjoying all aspects of I4 to some degree, as I have the entirety of the game up to this point.

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Nice that you got back on topic with this one little comment at the end.

After taking...hrrm...6 seperate paragraphs to bash me because you don't like the way I communicate.

You have some issues. I suggest you take them out on people closer to you that actually care what you think. I tried reasoning with you..you came back with an attack. I think anyone with eyes can see who, and what you are at this point.

Oh and because you apparently need something other than my "negativity" let me direct you to this post here, you may notice small amount of responses, if you take a moment to do so.

And why is that? Because people like you don't use the forum to discuss things. They use them as a way to assert their superiority over others. Much like you have just attempted to do here.

You don't have to read what I write. In fact, given your volatile inability to consider -anything- that I say as being anything other than an insult or negative argument...I'd like to ask you to stop reading my posts altogether, since its quite obvious that you will never be man enough to realize that neither of us have to be right...we just have to agree to be civil.

You have gone far beyond civility at this point. Yes..I did call someone a fascist. I also recanted the statement in the very same thread.

At least I am man enough to admit when I'm wrong.

Now. Once again. Stay out of my threads if you would be so kind. Validating an entire hate filled post about me with ONE line referring to the original posts subject matter is still derailing the topic and flaming, regardless of what you seem to think.

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ladies and gentlemen, please greet our new puffy shirt!

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NOOOO! You dare not speak that name here! Defiler!



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I'm afraid I'm lost on the Puffy Shirt comment.