RedCrosse

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Excellent guide. At level 25, I just respeced out all of my offense, since I wasn't using it anyway.



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Thank you.....

You brought up a number of issues that I am going to include in the revamped "Guide to playing with a Healer in your team" that should/will be posted in this thread sometime next week. I am always short on everything in teams, I like your suggestion that people should share/give certain colors to healers. For me it is slightly upsetting to keep a player troop alive then they ignore my requests to better help them, they cause me to walk the line between losing people and the SECOND they are filled they run to sell; sometimes leaving me up to my neck in MOBS, almost out of end and half dead (from wound trade). Even more upsetting when I know that the person(s) is going to selling a green or a blue for like 30 or 40 inf when the items true value could be seen as a resource in my inv.

You touched on so many things I feel should be stressed to the majority of "combat" types; namely make sure you know what type of healer you have....too many times people just assume my/the pure healer was like the last combo healer they had. A pure (or a perfect) healer truely needs the team to gain XP and any support you can give them not only makes them feel like they are not being used...but gives them a feeling of being a part of the team. I spend too much time as something that is ignored and then promptly chewed out when you died because you didn't offer me a blue, didn't wait for me to recov some End and honestly never thought about anything but yourself.


RoboDoc told me last night all healers should go on strike to impress to people that a case could be made of: While you did kill the bad guy who really got you to that final boss? Your fist or the healer you forgot to say, "thanks" to?

Great post I will make sure to give you props in the new Guide....

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You don’t need to follow this guide but you will die more often. You shouldn’t take it as a bible either, as I am just one healer trying to make it through the game with no combat skills. But, overall I think most people will agree with me that a healer doesn’t make or break the team....it is how the team interacts with team. A healer is just a member of the team...granted a member who can allow you to have limitless life...but a member none the less. Working with one another no matter their class will always make the team better..it just happens I am a healer so I wrote a guide to help me help you.

GAME ON

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Been out of the loop for a while.....coming back into the game found the reinstall to be a mother of all female dogs anywho.

I saw my old post and saw its message kinda twisted over the replies so I thought I would set the record straight. This mini-guide was never posted to be the end all be all on how to play a healer...it was only posted as something that worked for me. It was also posted to give insight for the player base on a healer...lets be honest the average player could careless abotu being a healer.....this mini-guide was meant to give them a basic understanding....

So again the post isn't meant to be a guide for healers (too many different play styles) it was meant to be for the others.

GAME ON

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They're closing in on the blaster, who is obediently standing near the defender. You're saying that the blaster should just stand there and take it, relying solely on your healing aura to keep him alive, instead of moving out of melee range? I sure hope your healing aura's six-slotted, because it only takes a couple of seconds for that blaster to go from full to dead.

Running out of heal range might be suicide, too, but I'll live longer.

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Yes, that is what I am saying if you have a tanker. If you don't have a tanker or even a scrapper I question why the party of ranged people (including the healer) are within melee range. But, I maybe misunderstand what you meant....i clearly stated in the first guide that the guide was not a bible. Of course there can be settings where you need to adapt and/or change how you do it based on the team. I feel the guide should be used as a way to better understand your healer and as a basic guide to interacting with said healers...adapt as needed.

Because you are right healing aura (for me) is at six slots, with the max level of enhances i can buy for my level even as that a Blaster in melee is at risk. To combat that probelm I give heals insp to people during the battle. I always have 4 insp heals on me so I can deal with that type of issue....someone who is weak hitpoint-wise standing close is now taking MORE damage then I can heal with heal aura needs healing now. So yes in my mind followin gthe basic rule of sticking close to the healer is key...if you run I can't heal you, if you run i can't GIVE you something and if you run you are leaving the healer high and dry in a world you claim you couldn't hang in.

For me anyway (and I stress for me and my builds) there is never ever a reason to run away from the healer. Again for me in the way I play will be the first one to tell you to run if I think you are going to get killed; i have seen this to be true for what i consider most good healers. Granted, don't wait for just any healer most don't say anything..but if you are with me (and I hope good healers) they know what they can handle and know when to say run, fallback, getout and/or anything else that tells the blaster to make a run for it.

Otherwise running is breaking one of the basic rules which was laid out I feel keep you safer next to me then you are "way over there".

Rufus....


My "1 to 2 ratio" is my build's ratio. Any of mixture of Enhances+slots+current level will effect that ratio, I didn't stress that thank you for making it clear. I didn't really want to get into trying to sorting out what is the best type of build, slot and enhance usage because frankly I don't think there is one. Play style by the healer and play style by the team overall effect what one would call the best healer build.

I do like what you say about how you play your healer as it restates again to everyone that knowing who is with you and what they can do for you is key. While one healer follows to directly heal the tanker; I prefer to do the same BUT the rest of the team gets healed if they need it or not through Healing Aura. We could split hairs all day about which style is best....

The reality is the non-healers should stay close to their group and/or healer...which is the main focus of the Guide. Anything else they (non-healers) can learn about how to best stay alive is icing on the cake to me...

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While this was written from the empaths prospective, let me add a word or two about other defenders/controller sets. Basically, know who is healing and how........................... So, know your healer (and healer know your team) and adjust your tactics accordingly.

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I so agree...

It never hurts to ask. Some of the best teams I have ever been in have been teams who spent a couple minutes sorting out who is what class. As was posted, you need to know the type of heal/control you have with you and how best to put yourself in the best setting to be healed/protected.

I am by no means saying that all tankers need to know everything about the Defend/Conrol class. I am saying that a good tanker should have at least some working knowledge of the different types of "heals" that (could) come out of the Def class. In reality any good character in any said class should have a basic understanding of any other class. (<- that is 11. now)

If you ever need or want a power you just saw explained, asking is not bad at all. You will tickle most Defs I know if you just ask them.....trust me knowing how to work with your healer/healing Defender keeps you standing.

(fyi: same holds true for us heal types...we know that the only reason we are standing by a MOB is because other classes are allowing us.)

Red Crosse’s mini-guide to playing with a healer in your group.

Too many times I find my pure emp/leader healer in a team with people who have no concept of my role, powers or limitations of the healer. This guide is being geared for the player who is lucky enough to team with a healer and/or how to best help your healer to help you.

1. Having a healer doesn’t mean you can do whatever you want.

Too many times I join a group and one or two people start going crazy. They have this idea that they can do whatever they want if a healer is present. They rush MOBS, show no interest in working as a team and almost always ignore request to be more team like.

2. The collective team’s _overall_ health is more important to a healer then any one person’s health.

A good healer long ago stopped seeing each member of the team as a bunch of solos on the same mission. A good healer sees the team as a whole, when one person starts running around with no regard for the team they are putting limits on what the healer can do for the whole team.

3. #2 demands that everyone on the team act as a team, the solo is just stealing from the team.

When an otherwise great team has a member who is the “solo” the whole team suffers and the team becomes half-[censored] at best. A healer can not be one member’s personal healer AND a group healer at the same time. It is always in the best interest of team members to keep the solo player in check.

4. The math of endurance usage require a healer always follow #2

The basic rule of thumb for a healer is one “Heal Other” equals two “Healing Aura”. Also, the math shows that healing power of one “Heal Other” is about half of the total of two “Healing Aura”. Put another way Heal Other only heals one person for roughly half of the points that “Healing Aura” can pass onto the whole team. NExt time you see that solo blaster in over their head in melee range 30 feet ahead of the healer know that misguided blaster is stealing heals not only from you but from the whole team as Endurance isn’t limitless to a healer.

5. Read a guide for your class. Just because you have a healer on team doesn’t mean your blaster can be a tank. (see 1->4)

This makes me mad when people throw caution to the wind and start thinking they are important enough (or even able) to step outside the limits of their class. No matter how good your healer is a blaster is never going to be a front-line person...so if you see this going down do yourself, the healer and the overall team a favor and get the misguided solo under control.

6. Be aware if you are NOT getting healed from your healer’s Healing Aura; it is then UP TO YOU to move closer to your healer.

Again this ties in with the overall concept that you are not able to do whatever you want just because you have a healer. Heal Aura is the best way for a healer to heal you, but if you are 30 feet ahead of her you are out of range. If you are out of range you are as good as dead, do yourself a favor and move closer. Heal Other could save you but why should it be wasted on you? You moved out of range of the perfectly working collectively healing “Healing Aura”

7. A dead healer is a worthless healer.

This goes along with the above. If you decide to be dumb and move so far out that you are going to die; don’t be the player who brings the MOB you set off, that is going to kill you anyway, to the feet of your healer. The time to use your healer is BEFORE you are going to die...if you break all of the above rules don’t when you notice the error of your ways bring the MOB to the healer.....die like you lived AWAY from your healer.

8. A healer with no endurance means no heals.

Frankly put: Who cares about your Endurance? If your healer isn’t recharged from the last MOB it isn’t time to go to the next mob. If you are the type of player who has trouble with this, trust me this guide is being made for you. Take it to heart, just because your endurance is up doesn’t mean anything....you are just PART of a team and when the team is ready it is time to get the next mob.

9. Running away might keep the MOB from killing you, but it also might take you out of range of your healer.

This needs nothing else said about it. I myself would rather see you run away if you ignore everything else prior to death coming for you. (reread 7)

10. Your healer sees the flaws and successes of your team in combat; ask them how you can improve your teams effectiveness.

If you have a healer send them a priv tell and ask them how you are doing. If you are the team leader send your healer a tell and ask who the weakest links are. 9 out of 10 healers worth their salt have a VERY GOOD idea who is bringing the team down or who could use a little direction. We see the people who rush, we see the people who aren’t close enough, we see the blaster acting like a tank and the tank who is making everything aggro.

You don’t need to follow this guide but you will die more often. You shouldn’t take it as a bible either, as I am just one healer trying to make it through the game with no combat skills. But, overall I think most people will agree with me that a healer doesn’t make or break the team....it is how the team interacts with team. A healer is just a member of the team...granted a member who can allow you to have limitless life...but a member none the less. Working with one another no matter their class will always make the team better..it just happens I am a healer so I wrote a guide to help me help you.

GAME ON