NefariousB

Yes i r me

Im gonna try and be around friday night and sunday, hope we can get some good stuff goin

Anyone gonna be on test for some 1st class fun over the weekend? Im gonna try and get on a bit if anyone wants random arena

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we did like 2 raids, and everyone quit because they were getting roflstomped

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Your stormy was viscious that much I remember from being on the other team. I was on a lvl 30 EM/Regen I think, [censored] was not fun

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it was bad since it was missing manheim and myself.

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I miss manny

And I remember doing base raids with you in like i6 with the xpats, good times

this was a great team

SG?

GL

snap

I think for that to work, dom would have to be a short duration click with quick recharge or a toggle.

I like how doms opperate currently (pvp that is), because they're very vulnerable to debuffs, but if they get rolling (and to do this you generally have to be a good player) then they wreck havoc, but can still be debuffed or killed easily. If you work for it you should be able to have both control and damage, imo.

Basically I guess I don't like how it would make me pick a role. I like being a blaster with crazy holds while in domination, this change would make me have to choose between killing and mezzing the target, when right now we can do both.

Edit: after reading that thread and castle's comment a bit, I think if it could be made so that domination was given the mog treatment (lowered duration, lowered recharge) then it could be attractive, although it would weaken doms as duelists overall I think.

It's not a bug. Most people don't bother attacking jack, just hold/stun him, so I never noticed it. In pve its much worse trying to farm with my fire/psi.

I personally found it too painful to get to domination while getting knocked around. It's not a huge sacrifice to put a kb io in your shield and combat, manuevers, tactics, but it makes a very nice difference.

Facing a rad/psi for example, if you get knocked you're gonna die pretty damn fast. Even if you do FoN+snipe it doesn't build -that- fast that they can't get an attack off before you have dom.

Also m3z check my vid son:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q14jy7wMmkg

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hmm I have the choice between the sentinel and an immob that can proc a hold, i'll have to think on it

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which did you decide to make, fire or ice elec

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does it pick up player damage buffs? ie hit harder when cast from domination and/or for 9 seconds when used with bu?

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Again I remember it being no but that was a while ago so don't trust me

i think it replaces, i haven't used it in a while but pretty sure thats how it worked. the thing sucks though, low damage, high end, have to keep resummoning, pretty much the only good thing is that it scourges

People always drop out during the formation period anyways

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Doesn't domination give you 10kb protection? Stacked on top of the kb io's + accro, you will seldom be kb'd.

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also domination gives you resistance to kb so you will never get kbed with it up.

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5 defense and 5 resistance. You can also have protection from kinetic crash in kb powers.

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Huh thats news to me. Thought they counted as the same. Gonna have to redo my squishy builds then.

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They also stack for a split second every once in a while

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mine was stacking around 1/2 the time

ice and fire are both better than mind when paired with /elec it seems. i like ice but the hold is so [censored] terrible animation wise that it makes it tough to use.

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I'm starting to wonder if /Thorns having Aim (and -Def, but not really that great) could make it a better contender to help counter high-def or high-tohit debuff builds.

[/ QUOTE ]no never, it's lethal damage, the damage is small, the animations are large, most hero builds take power mastery which means s/l resists, /rads have a self heal and -dmg debuff you probably won't be able to outdamage their self heal.

only chance doms have right now are /elec doms, but I have not seen a single good /elec dom yet

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I see forts being better than every other duelist build except for having a hole against fire/em.

Against rads, you've got your crazy invis+stealth IO to stealth out of the toggles. Ice/Rad will not be able to out mez your bfs and inherent mez protection, so you can bring some reds and kill them easily the first time. Rad/Psi... lols you have capped psi resist, even with EF up they have to deal with around 40% res to their damage. Stealth out of toggles and dominate forces them to bring 20 bfs... winar -> fort

Colds, they get screwed by lack of self heal and lack of mez protection, they either run out of bfs or run out of greens and damage on a fort is high enough to put serious pressure on. If they went dark for the heal id bring purples like you described mez, they'll never get thier first infrigidate off.

Doms... have to deal with high defense and high damage, and mez protection, tk resists.

A duel against another fort would be stupid, itd be like a stalker vs stalker fight with neither opponent seeing the other,but with 85 resistance to each other's damage.

MMs, the fort would just have to outburst bodyguard, with no aim a combo of purples and reds would overwhelm it quickly.

Stormys would be a tougher fight since tornado and FR will cut your defense, ice/storm/psi would be difficult but with mez protection and the ability to stealth and conserve bfs, slight advantage to the fort.

Fire/ems would be toughest since they can cut through your defense, and with no resistance and no heal the fort would rely on stealth, phase, dominate and a mix of oranges and greens to stay alive.


I hate to say it because I love doms but they are just inferior now with the i12 nerfs. My ice/elec would do better but I don't have enough interest to accolade him out, and since I only have a proliferated fort atm I am probably going to level one on live so I can get accolades and more experience.

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M3z for Fire/Elec, since voltaic sentinel is on a 1min timer, is it worth the power slot besides the set bonuses you can get? I have it currently and have it 4 slotted with sovreign rights.

[/ QUOTE ]if I were to get it(I think I probably would) i'd slot it with 3 soulbound all. since it gives a big +hp bonus and you can slot the +hp bonus twice for 8% more hp or something like that.

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I just want to know how you're fitting sentinel in, I tried fitting it in but just wasn't happening. I didn't even grab Arctic Air in my ice/elec because ice slick was more appealing.

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seriously though, I'm against things like going under the map and true spawn camping(putting an attack on auto/mezzing someone while they are supposed to be invulnerable to attacks) however, I do tech chasing people so you know where they're at when they spawn, let me make this clear, this tactic is used ONLY to find out where they spawn, that's it. I don't want to let people to turn on their toggles and get ready, as soon as their attackable I want to be attacking them. I never get this "i'll let you set up" treatment on my MM, why should it be any different for any other AT. I'm open for any reasons why it shouldn't be done.

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It's easy enough if you just watch the trail that the body leaves when it teleports to the spawn.

NIce vids btw, I was really suprised you beat Jax like that, ice/rad is one fight I just don't think doms should win, did he beat you in the rematch once he figured out your tactics?

stalkers are getting phased out too with forts on the way. but yeah i get you, we had mind link triple stacked in a practice and the stalker on the other team later told us he got 3 [censored] off on me but only 1 hit I lived through it too, since I had plenty of greens to burn

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My Fortunata currently is lvl 48.5.... yea I know I'm a damn slacker theres plenty of lvl 50 veats already....... I concur with M3z'z opinion and I am a peeveepee NOOB! Even Miss Noob see's the potential in this at and with limited dexterity skills has managed some fun stuff in zones. The dev's did a good job with the Villian epics. My only regret is there are not more around to team with. I suppose my post is a threadjack and I apologize. I am pm'ing you M3z with my current Fortunata plan. I am going for perma ml and all I need are 1.5 levels to achieve the goal. For all the dom lover's the Fortunata build is about as expensive as a permadom one. I took your gloom suggestion in the SOA thread, M3z and you were right.

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I'm happy i took webnade, I can already spam subdue and dominate without pause in a team setting, not much room for gloom really unless you were to duel. If I was gonna duel I'd probably go Night Widow anyways, gloom could be useful for that.

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yeah sorry I didn't get to answer that question, I was playing brawl

good for taking out MMs if you're into that, immobs are predictable, imps [censored] up MMs but that's about it

I like mind better though, TK and dominate but I am rolling a fortunata right now so probably won't be playing mind/psi for long who knows

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I think plenty of people have thought up counters to forts. I know I've got a couple ideas that I want to play with a bit.

hi m3z fire/psis in 8v8s go