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  1. Mister Wolfram
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    Actually, it's more of a copy of the Rogue Isles, but with the evil dialed up a bit more:


    A power-crazed Incarnate ruling with an iron first from his huge tower - Tyrant/Recluse.

    An inner circle of very powerful, very dangerous and very evil villains with their own agendas and plots - Praetors/Patrons.

    A network of female psychics recruited at a young age to serve the dictator - Seer Network/Fortunata Seers

    A corrupt and thuggish police force - PPD/RIP.

    A "survival of the fittest" doctrine amongst the playable section of the governing organization, with betrayal, double-crossing and brute force as acceptable ways of advancing through the ranks - Destined Ones/Powers Division.

    A mad scientific genius operating semi-independently form his own personal power base - Neuron/Doctor Aeon.

    A Failed super soldier experiment based on using the dictator's blood/DNA, with the results left to roam beneath the streets - Ghouls/Arachnoids.

    Plus:

    Intense and open rivalries between the various sub-groups of the ruling organization that frequently spill over into violence.

    The widespread and frequent use of torture by the security forces.

    A tightly controlled media, with any journalists who step out of line being targeted by the dictatorship.

    Teachers who step out of line are also targeted by the dictatorship.


    The extra evil of Praetoria is the durgged water supply and the thought police - those take it to 11 - while the Rogue Isles are still just a 10.


    Basically, whether you spend your time shouting "Hail Lord Recluse!" or "Hail Emperor Cole!" just depends on how clean you like the streets of your fascist nightmare.
    Yes, except for the fact that Tyrant is clearly the dimensional version of The Statesman, with his lieutenants versions of the Paragon City Heroes. So, really, Praetoria=Paragon.

    From the devs themselves:

    http://goingrogue.na.cityofheroes.co...yrant-bio.html

    So, yes, Cole did save humanity, stave off disaster and give people peace and prosperity. Granted, this was at a terrible personal cost of liberty to the people.

    Regarding Calvin Scott:

    http://goingrogue.na.cityofheroes.co...scott-bio.html

    He does indeed spearhead the movement to restore that personal liberty. However, his motives are far from altruistic.

    Also, removing the power structure involves removing people who know how to run the daily affairs; something that always results in, at best, a lower standard of living, and at worst, chaos. We had seen this most recently in Iraq. Indeed, the bad guy and his brutal regeme were removed, but come morning, there was suddenly no municipal service, no water, limited electricity and a crippled food distribution network. This has happened every time there was a forced regime change, and there would be no reason that it wouldn't happen in Praetoria.
  2. Mister Wolfram
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    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    That's not what Tyrant's doing - he's trying to make humans behave like robots - he's decided that humans can't be allowed to be humans and make the mistakes that are part of human nature - so he's stripped them of their humanity, and reduced them to the level of drugged zombies who don't even have the most basic human rights like freedom of speech and freedom of thought.
    Well, yes he is doing all of those things. As I understand it, Praetoria is the dystopic version of Paragon City. So, at the same time, Tyrant is giving his people peace and security, albeit at the cost of their freedom. The Resistance gives you the freedom that is desired, but at the cost of a future that is much less certain. As such, picking a side in the conflict is a tough decision, which is what makes the story arc so compelling.
  3. Mister Wolfram
    I've gone through almost all of the GR content, although don't judge me by my current character level because I keep tearing him down and rebuilding him to experiment with different classes and powers (hey, I'm new).

    However, I see the GR storyline as morally grey, which I imagine was the developers' intention. Tyrant very much reminds me of Ashur from The Pitt (Fallout 3), although not nearly as gritty. Both are trying to carve out a better life for their people in a dangerous world. Both use undeniably evil methods to reach that end. The Resistance to me seems like Werhner and Midea. They have moral right to their arguments, but the methods that they wish to use to implement that right are questionable at best, and monsterous at worst.

    All in all, it makes for a lot of fun in Going Rogue.