Lil_Frostbite

Thanks Positron for responding. It should help to clear up some confusion and glad to hear we have some things coming our way down the line.

I guess I really could have held my breath until a dev responded. Glad I didn't take any bets.

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Is it so unfathomable to think that the devs have made some classes (whether intentionally or unintentionally) harder to play than some others simply by design?


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Honestly, I think the devs could have started out some ATs weaker so they can buff them to their vision of "balance". No one likes to get nerfed. Nerfage causes hate and discontent and no one likes that. I don't think the Dom AT is going to be like it is forever, it is just going to take time to get the tweaks it needs in order to be viewed as an equal. Some people can wait for that time, some people can't.

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You do realize that Im using the term Pro-Dom as in supports doms as they are. As I put myself in the [Censored] as in doesnt support doms as they are and wants change.


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Did he say ?

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yes I blieve he did say , might I make a motion to come up with a different term for those that feel doms need to change?

Edited because I said you instead of he

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You know what i think is the reason behind the very different perceptions of doms that people have? I think it's the difference between teams and solo.

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I can see how that could be a perception except many people on this board, including myself, do alright to good to fantastic on a team. So, I guess I will ask this question where does that leave us? If someone says that they do good on a team are they lying? If they aren't lying then what is different about their experience/build/playstyle that varies so greatly from yours?

I freely admit I solo a lot but I also play on teams a lot. I can and do contribute on a team. So what is different about my experience from yours other than the fact that you haven't had good experiences on teams and I have.

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Well, it's interesting to note that the "uber dom" post that you object to was made *after* the "lazy incompetent noob" post -- as was the post mentioning "pro dom."

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Honestly I object to both and I was not isolating either comment. Just clarifying what the comparison was. All this name calling, like I said previously, is counter productive. It just gives fuel to an already hot fire.

Still honestly, I have yet to read a post that says that the Dom AT is perfect in every way. GO DOMS!

I just see a lot of Doms have no hope, doms suck, roll a corrupter.

Both are inaccurate, IMO, neither POV can be supported with hard facts, or I have yet to see a post that can support either POV. The Dom AT takes work and some working with and if that isn't your cup of tea you aren't going to like it. There are tweaks that need to be made, I believe we can all agree on that. What we can't agree on is what those tweaks need to be.

Numbers HAVE been posted but all those numbers say to me is that our AT is working like it is supposed to. I have seen a lot of numbers posted about base damage and hold time. Those numbers are then used to argue how low our damage is compared to everyone and their grandma but what I haven't seen is numbers posted that show what our damage and holds are with domination running. I am not a numbers person, I can't even begin to understand the arcane formulas used to come up with damage. That would be an interesting comparison though. Of course then the argument would be "but my domination is never up....EVER" and the name calling will start all over again.

Finally, I think it would be great if we could get some higher up (red name type) to chime in and tell us what the Devs vision of the dominators role was before CoV released and how (or if) that vision has changed since CoV has gone live. I would like to hold my breath until I got a response but I have to work and I don't think I can do that while dead.

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And you wonder why I call you people pro dom's.

You completly discount anyone who doesnt agree with you.

I usually dont like to let my posts degrade to insults but this is going too far.

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What do you get when you throw in some intelligent and vocal players who really know how to play the game With people who are earnestly trying to learn the AT With some lazy incompetent noobs who try at every turn to down toe AT and it's fanbase to get the AT molded in their own image and likeness?

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That's because there are several self proclaimed uber-doms who quickly drop into insult mode and tear down anyone who says anything about doms needing any kind of change. Not naming any names but some people really flip out when anyone suggests doms aren't perfect.

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All emphasis mine. Am I the only one that finds these posts eerily similar?

Nobody named names. Doesn't matter; in the blame game, everyone is equal!

We now return you to your regularly scheduled self-righteous pissing contest.

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I'm afraid I don't see the similarity. How is using the terms "pro dom" and "uber dom" in any way equivalent to calling people "lazy incompetent noobs"?

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B/c "self-proclaimed uber dom" has the implication of elitism and snobishness and it was in comparison to "lazy incompetent noobs" not "pro-doms". Both are rude and both counter productive.

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My complaints about my Grav dom, which are spelled out pretty well in the guild linked in my signature, were just as noticeable after getting SOs. When I questioned my doms abilities in my teens I was told about waiting for SOs, waiting for this or that power.... all of it was disappointing. IMHO my Grav Dom is just now getting respectable at 37.

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could you plz post your build and play style? I have a lvl 30 Grav/ice dom playing just great on vicious solo and on teams.

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Not naming any names but some people really flip out when anyone suggests doms aren't perfect.


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Can you give me an example of this? I am curious what your definition of flip out is. The only time I see people flip out in this forum about anything is when one party presents their opinions as cold hard fact and doesn't back up their claims.

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Sounds like a bug to me. Seems like the one on test where the domination bar would not fall after you exited a mission.

Of course I hope it isn't.

Still 2 /kins are great.

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The domination bar wouldn't fall ever?