LadyJudgement

please break for 8hrs, or 6, but then I will need more coffee...

I foresee a lockdown in our future... we should do this again in about 3 months...

oh gees, Scarf! Put the gun down... step away from the ammo case...

Remind me never to get on Scarf's bad side...

I've rewritten my response, but here it is in a nutshell.

If at all possible please don't quote something I said in another thread, and turn it into a new thread.

Thank you.

Lousy:

I wasn't offended by your comments, nor did I find them without merit... the thing is here, everyone sort of knows everyone, and so when someone new comes along and breaks the typical behavior, it's seen as rude. But I know that was not your intention, and you have every right to your opinion. I don't believe Gil will take you up on that particular suggestion, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't keep handing them out as you see fit. We're all capable of change, and of being polite and of over reacting.

LJ

Scarf: quit splashing, or I'll dunk Graver's head in the deep end!

This is a self portrait no? You've changed your hair? It is most displeasing, I am greatly offended by the showing of her green cleavage, which neither helps the environment nor hurts it. Above all I find that her half severed torso in the poorest of possible tastes, except for my own... other than that, it's a winner!

Yeah see Liz is waaay too level headed to be an artist... my exact theory on this matter is that she was abducted by aliens, taught to draw on their level, and she is just passing her time away waiting for the mothership to return while she redeems us all with her personage! Look into the light Liz! Look into the light...

Both, personally I would like nice comments from my friends, respectful comments from strangers, fawning comments from anyone under 14, and insightful criticism from fellow artists who's own work I deem to be without flaw (you know who you are)... and of course, the client is to a tolerant degree open to comment as they feel, and I try to accommodate them. You definitely do not want a client that can't make up their mind except to say, they know what they want, and your work is not it...

Well actually the offending, (while unintentional) response came from Lousey Day over a wip that Gil Bates had posted, I'm sure just to update his site's progress. I don't think he was looking for 11th hour critiques, even if Lousey's was helpful or interesting, which I thought it was... but at the same time could have been taken in the wrong way, or been slight off putting... this is all speculation, or gut reactions, much like my comment after Sayterra's where what set me off, was not even the topic, but that I recieved a comment from someone else, who hadn't said anything about my work in 5 months (okay I was off for 2 and a half of those months), but it's kind of perplexing. One second you think you know someone, and the next, the only thing they have to say is, well I noticed...

It's all subjective, perhaps if we were both having better days, nothing would have been said on either side.

EDIT: Dark Jedi/Doug Shuler can't critique me any time, and I would listen out of my deep respect and admiration for his insight, well meaning and skill as an artist. In other words, I wouldn't tell Da Vinci to piss off...

Well I did a google search on How to Critque Art, and it occurs to me, that an artist can spend several days working on a piece, and what there work is summed up to is a 3 or 4 line paragraph, sometimes favorable, sometimes not. Is that fair? Probably not, is it fair to ask people to comment in length, or not to comment, probably not...

I don't agree with your statement that art posted requires a response, it would be nice to get one definitely, and perhaps even negative ones with good intention have merit... but I think most artists will continue to work regardless. Like I said earliar, the client's response is the most important to me... everything else is gravy and or coleslaw which I don't care for...

Edit: what Foo said! lololol you kill me man...

Whoa, I didn't mean to open a can of worms... my general opinion is, that I cannot stop the viewer from commenting how they feel... even if I wanted to, so it's not up to me to ask or not ask. I look at the unwanted responses as a measure of how I handle myself, and I look at the wanted responses, especially and preferably the client's as pretty much the only thing I am shooting for... if there is a parade of ooh and ahhs, who am I to say no to them? But in equal measure, what exactly does the negative viewer want me to do at the finished stage? Fix it? Do it again, draw it all over because they are so conveniently observant? My answer to that is, if the client is happy I'm happy, and while I'd love to fix all my mistakes, all I can really do with a queue over my head is take note of it, and move on to the next one...

There is no forum consensus, no rule saying you cannot comment how you wish. My comment in the other thread and on my latest DA piece was meant out of politeness and nothing more... as I would hope I am given the same courtesy.

In the past I have found it very annoying to be critiqued by the non-artistic, or the less than artistic, but as an SG mate has pointed out to me, those are all learning experiences for the artist. So now when it does happen, I try to keep my head, and find something polite to say.

In the end I can only speak for myself, and I am a compliment [censored]... in fact it's almost a sure fire way of getting free art from me, that is unless you hate my stuff, then well don't go out of your way.

LJ

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I love those new sketches, especially Axe Jack. If I may make a suggestion, if the intention is to have a very low camera angle as I am guessing from the low skyline in the background, I think it will even look sweeter to have the character conform to the same perspective. It doesn't have to be something drastic, but could be as little as small details such as the horizontal contours of the torso curving up and down instead of straight across or slightly down and up. I am looking forward to seeing how these turn out.

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Alt's not the artist, Lousy. But you could always email Jomaro. Seeing as these are all commissioned pieces, I don't think they're really open to critique.

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Evidently everything is open to critique, not only works in progress, but works that are finished. There's a tendency for the artist to get defensive with their vision, OR to thank the third party for their observation and move on to the next one...

Finally done!

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More to come, 8 more to be exact, but not all at once... hope you like.

LJ

Umm a desktop wallpaper just has to fit your screen resolution whatever that may be... are you saying you don't have an image editing program to make one? Cause usually you just right click any jpeg to set it to your desktop... the animation avatar requires any of several programs... but I do believe photobucket allows you to make them now for free.

faved you on DA watch, nice grey tones btw...

Hmmm k I am gravitating towards Sin Stalker, I will try to add the original Stalking and see what I can come up with... should be done by the time you get back... enjoy the Con!

LJ

Yeah I get easily confused... damn and I altered the face after you explained it, but I had only opened the last link you provided... oh well.

Both very nice, in fact I dare say the best ST I've ever seen...

Ahh kk, here's a 20 minute freebie, good luck with your project...

LJ

I'm a little confused by the freebie and the first commission, is the head piece, a skull mask? or a cowl like batman/wolverine/daredevil? Check out my gallery and if YOUR interested contact me at DA.

Could you post a screen, list a short bio (AT, powersets) and perhaps a 1-2 synopsis of the 8 issues? Is one an origin issue? Okay those are MY questions, good luck either way... in case you don't pick me.

LJ

so fav'd, conga'rats!

Speedy's got skillz!

Sorry had the snafu virus from hell this past weekend, so everything was on hold, don't worry I haven't forgotten about you...

OKAY!!! Spent the last hour wrestling with your pdf links, had to upate to Adobe Reader 9, a royal pain by the way. Not to mention this wrecked havoc with my connection. SO after being thoroughly annoyed (though I did get to glance at the first comic on that 3rd party reader which worked without a hitch for me) I leave you with two options... FIX IT!

Or send me screens of the 5 members, and I will make up a cover... you have 12 hours to comply at which point I will feel it necessary to drive into a bus load of Nuns, which is how ticked I am right now... not at you, but when my pc won't work, I am NOT a happy camper... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr