To Znail:
Just a side note and this is just my opinion ....but...
I play/played spines/claws/dark melee scrappers and the damage generally owns the tanker secondaries I've played.... stone/mace/energy/super str.
The only tanker secondary that may sometimes be an exception during a single boss is energy, due to the potential to double stack energy transfer/total focus. But the rest of energy melee's damage is so poor, and the recharge is so long on those 2 high end attacks, that the overall damage output over time doesn't touch that of the scrappers', especially with crits. And we all know that we never really get a chance to fight just one single boss, we usually fight packs of mobs with bosses in them.
To say tankers can generally meet scrappers single target damage is way off.
To say scrappers can generally meet a tankers defensive limitations is largely more accurate. Especially considering practical fights (purple patch: anything higher than +3 is a wasted time sink) and time spent tanking (which is much less with a scrapper simply becuz he kills it faster).
But....the changes look promising.
I hope they would consider putting provoke in tanker secondaries instead of taunt, as well.
And to some other folks discussing hasten and scrappers... now this is all merely just my personal opinion and experience but on the topic of hasten...
I team with lots of 40+ tankers without hasten.
I only know one scrapper 40+ that doesn't have hasten but he's level 50 and probably respec'ing that in once patch 2 goes live.
last comment.....
Was playing a low level alt with a dark/dark scrapper friend of mine in independence port. He was level 28 and mass pulling for our group and pulling lvl 27's-29's packs with bosses. Granted he needed status resistance inspirations so he could keep his armor on, and avoided pulling sorcs, but he could kill what he pulled quite efficiently.
This example is merely in regards to someone mentioning earlier that only invul scrappers can do this type of tank substituting and only at lvl 40+. DA has it's issues of course, especially non stacking problems, but this is just an example of some cool tanking done by a scrapper way before level 40.
[Edit] (Oh ya, forgot to add, he also later did the same thing to higher leveled mobs in Brickstown while still being lvl 28. This was the first time I actually witnessed a dark armor scrapper herding, and it was pretty cool to watch becuz he was a friend, but it was also saddening at the same time.)[Edit]
Anyways, I'm off... RL issues atm. Grats tankers.
