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Quote:The Admiral Sutter TF is 20-40, and needs 4 to start it.Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
Still "eh" to raids.
New TF/SF - OK. Not jumping up and down, but if they don't need 8 person teams (or a silly "Be slotted with Alpha or face a "You're useless!" debuff!") I'll be glad to run them with smaller teams. That's where I'm comfortable. -
An update for you - this Floating Fortress is a large map that's used for the first misison fo the new blue side Admiral Sutter TF - and there are new interior maps for the American warships docked beside it.
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Just an update on this - the Floating Fortress is a large map that's used for the first mission of the Admiral Sutter TF - it is not a zone.
The American warships docked off it have new ship interior maps. -
I'm an Incarnate on each server
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I think there might be a few more bits of info at PAX East later this month
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Quote:The Floating Fortress seems to be the focus of the new Hero TF.Originally Posted by Jerikko
This is just an overview, no where did it mention the ship city released yesterday
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Quote:Which means we might some more Castillo antics as a bonusOriginally Posted by Clouded
Well, the description says Sky Raiders for heroes
Well, knowing is half the battleQuote:Originally Posted by Gemini_2099
Wow...you have an answer for everything! o.O
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Quote:Blue Steel.Originally Posted by Gemini_2099
If all die who wins? o.O
That's an interesting use fo the word "we" thereQuote:Originally Posted by Venture
I particularly do not want level 20 TFs. We don't need anything under level 50.
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Quote:We only die if Tyrant winsOriginally Posted by Johnny_Butane
Issue 20: Cole Rocks Fall Everyone Dies
The Floating Fortress appears to be the focus of the new Hero TF, rather than an actual zone - although it's posisble they could make it both.Quote:Originally Posted by Unknown_User
As mentioned there's probably more incarnate powers to be unlocked in I20, maybe some new costume pieces, maybe that new floating ship zone, and a few other things. -
I think you were scooped - but it' nice to have an offical thread too
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20 is the magic level right now fo several reasons, but is 40 special in any way? Like if they were going to have the 15 level spread of a 35-50, the new TFs would be 20-35 - so is there something important at 40 that could be the reason for them having a 20-40 spread for the new TFs?
Quote:Well, the head-in-the-sand attitude of the stiff armers was rather surprisingOriginally Posted by Haterade
If it was obvious then there wasn't much of a point of gloating about calling something
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Quote:Maybe he is an automaton?Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
The Joker has a very distinct personality. The lack of a cohesive backstory only adds to that. Tyrant has about as much personality as a Doombot.
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Quote:Well, there are some QoL features in it tooOriginally Posted by TheShattered
In my opinion, let the Devs finish Issue 20, but for the love of deities above and below, don't make it all about the Praetorians.
None of them are as dangerous right now as Tyrant and the loyalistsQuote:So, whilst I do somewhat like Praetoria, i'm disappointed that the Devs current goal/vision seems to be shifted entirely to involving Praetoria given half the chance. I mean, there are other threats out there
But I also think that tying to conqueser the multiverse could create or wake up things that shouldn't really be created or woken up
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Quote:I was meaning more the stiff-arm types insisting that Tyrant was not such a bad person, and that making the CTA trains run on time was important, when it was obvious right from the start that he was a monster with a level of evil that was off the chartsOriginally Posted by reiella
I think Issue 2 trumps you on that though
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Maria Jenkins old arc, considering that Battle Maiden is not actually from Praetoria.
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Quote:Future plansOriginally Posted by LISAR
As opposed to....
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Quote:How can an almost invincible man powered by an ultimate source of power and attempting to conquer the entire multiverse "for the greater good" not be an interesting Villain?Originally Posted by Lazarillo
and without a compelling villain to inspire me
You make Tyrant sound like Hopkins in a fancier suit
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Quote:I so totally called that ages ago - back in the GR beta, in fact
"Emperor Cole's ultimate goal is not to hold ultimate sway over our Earth, but to conquer the entire multiverse."
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I love the idea of having a Primal and a Praetorian version working together - wacky sitcom antics could come form that
I also like the way that I totally called Tyrant's untimate plan as being to conquer the multiverse
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I think the Floating Fortress belongs to the Sky Raiders/Praetorians - it sees to be a perfect fit.
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Quote:Well, you don't really have to save it to take over later - it's more a question of personal survival - if Tyrant and his loyalist stormtroopers are planning to wipe out any superpowered people on Primal Earth, then regardless of if you protect Paragon City or serves Recluse, you're going to be a target of the Praetorian invasion.Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
Oh, and this is another thing I'm getting tired of: the global threat that forces villains to help save the world so it'll still be there for them to take over later, whenever that is. While taking absolutely no steps to make this "later" come sooner.
Content wise, it's much easier to create stuff for us if Heroes and Villains are both threatened by the same forces - that's why the devs made sure that Arachnos was lined up against Tyrant, rather than possibly forming an alliance with him to defeat Paragon City.
Well, we're all going to be killed if Tyrant wins, so it's a personal fight too.Quote:Originally Posted by Lazarillo
Aye, but why do we care that it's the Praetorians? I'm not talking about why "we" as the heroes and villains fighting to keep them out care. It's obvious why the characters care, they don't want to be invaded. But why do we, the players, or more aptly, the readers care? What's the story behind it? What's the difference between a mission where Battle Maiden invades King's Row, and where the Axis Amerika version of Maestro invades King's Row?
But we've already had the danger explaind to us - we know what Tyrant is planning to do, and what he's already done to the people of his own world.Quote:Originally Posted by Lazarillo
It's also a story based game, though, and in a story, you can't just say "the world's in danger". Well, you can, but it doesn't tend to make a good story. That's the distinction between a villain and a boss that I mentioned earlier. A boss is a something that has a buncha HP that I click on and then press the little numbers on my keyboard until I see that it doesn't have HP anymore. A villain is a character in a story against whom I feel like I want to click on the little numbers on my keyboard and make him or her not have HP anymore (or, alternatively, one that actually makes me sympathize and feel even a touch of regret for doing so). -
Quote:But any high level threat has to involve the world in danger in some way - some evil force has to threaten Primal Earth or another world, and we have to fight it - and as it's a combat based game, any evil force will be using things that we can defeat in combat, so that means invasion armies.Originally Posted by Lazarillo
I've tried to explain it several times but even if "Praetorians invading Primal Earth" is a new arc, as a concept, it's nothing we haven't seen other villain groups already do. We have fought most of them already though. Well, we have heroside, anyway. Villains have even less reason to care.
Well, it'd still be our duty as defenders of freedom and justice to go to Praeotria and liberate them from the loyalistsQuote:Originally Posted by Furio
That's kinda what bad guys do when they're at that level of power. Invade and conquer/destroy places. Then heroes stop em. The reason heroes care who the villains are (in any story) is because they're attempting to change the heroes' status quo through violence. If the Praetorians stayed in their home dimension, we likely *wouldn't* care about them at all.
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If Tyrant is the apparent champion of the Well, then I think he and his loyalist thugs will be around for quite a few Issues yet
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It's a lot bigger than Ouroboros, plus it has interior maps, so it's quite big.
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Quote:Does seducing your granddaughter count?Originally Posted by Olantern
I'd like to see the game get back a little more of the straight-up spandex-clad hero vs. strangely-powered villain (and no, dressing like Captain Steuben from The Love Boat and having your own pet government doesn't count as a "strange power").
It's possible to have both at the same time - reinforcing the evil of dictatorships and the importance of freedom is never a bad thing, and if it an be done in an entertaining way, that's even betterQuote:It seems that with the Praetorians, the game became more about social commentary and philosophy than about having fun.
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Quote:Villains don't make "heroic arrivals"Originally Posted by Kobold_Commander
Who says we're doing "good" things? Everyone knows Arachnos's science division could use some new "test subjects." Besides, it's not like anyone's going to miss those fishermen.