FrozenDeath

Lol no dude. To many lonely nights waiting for you to call. And someone slapped me around pretty good last night art-wise. I'm having an existential crisis. We should do a collab or something though sometime. Nod nod nod

So when I went out of town I had to sketch on paper with a pencil. Here are a couple of the doodles with some quick value shading added in Photoshop:

My character Love Tap:


A Vikki Vandale image I started for the sketchbook:

Hug it out *******!

I think this sort of contest is good for the art community here. Wassy took on the aggravation of running one. We owe her a collective THANK YOU. There is always going to be disagreement about things like rules, personality clashes, etc. But the bottom line is that someone took it upon themselves to make something happen. Thank you Wassy (and helpers Frost, Foo, etc.).

Pyro--

You need to understand that the world is built upon ******** as much as hard work and effort. And this is very true in art. Sometimes something thrown together in 5 minutes IS better than something that took weeks of labor. Sometimes it's not better but people just like it better. Sometimes your work simply wins or loses because of the specific audience at the time.

Art is like poker. You don't talk about what's going on in your hand. You put it out there and see if it flies. You don't give excuses or pre-judge it for the audience, because then you lose their honest reaction and the opportunity to learn from it.

1. Shia
2. CR
3. Pyro

Hola,

I'm out of town, so no Livestream this week. Also I think I'll probably take this as a good stopping point since there doesn't seem to be that much interest and the Livestream service is being a real pain in the *** with the ads and whatnot.

Any medium will take effort to master. If you're not willing to put any effort into learning one--obviously you're not going to get good results with it. Personally, I just find it odd that people who do end up toying with digital art programs limit themselves to trying to replicate the things they will do with a pencil on a piece of paper.

Digital art is qualitatively less than traditional art because it produces no tangible result unless you print it out.

In every other way it is qualitatively more. My brush can behave like whatever thing I want it to. It can blend and blur whatever way I want it to. And as Foo pointed out, there are a whole class of transformation and translation tools that will quickly let me correct mistakes and make changes that would be impossible with traditional media and require me to redraw things constantly.

urmom

yeah tomorrow I'll do one if people show up.

Welcome back sucka!

Is there any interest in a Livestream this Wednesday night?

I don't think the guy's gonna make it that far if he has to rely so much on heroin to get the job done.

Here are a couple images from the stream last night. The first was a sample overview of my general process and the second is one I did during the session:

The contentious thing about Poser for me is not whether it's art, but the fact that you are using materials created by other artists to do your art. Anything associated with Poser is inherently a collaboration. I've disputed this with Doug Schuler for a long time--he simply views it as another tool, like a paintbrush. I view it as getting source material from a team of highly talented professionals to work with.

Fine art photography is often a collaboration in the same way. But people seem more likely to recognize a model as being a significant contributor to the work vs. Poser which is just viewed as software.

Just a reminder, this is tonight 10:15 PM

I'm think of demoing some heads, since that's an essential think a lot of people struggle with.

I'll be doing another Livestream tomorrow night--Wednesday, Aug 11th, 10:15 pm est.
www.livestream.com/bwbabble

Lol can we talk about art here peeps? Pleeeeeaaaaazzze?

Hola, here's an update. I've made some changes based on feedback from this thread, as well as just continuing to develop the design. Still a wip but closer to a final layout/composition.

Also, I think a positive way to view this thread would be both providing feedback for artists on their work and becoming more educated and adept at what it mean to offer a useful critique.

Happy BDay playa!

Assisace--

Thanks for the feedback. A lot of things kind of ended up the way they are because I'm still figuring out the overall design. The top/bodysuit thing she's wearing originally had straps up the sides that I later took out, the coat is supposed to be more of a hoodie but doesn't really read clearly, etc.

I'll be taking your points into consideration as I revise, I'm definitely seeing more issues with the sketch.

I haven't had time today, but I'll post an update soon with some of the energy effects in it to see if any of these issues are resolved.

I don't mind critique of my work. In fact there are glaring problems with it that have been commented on. But I'm finding his comments on the pose to be simply baseless. At this point, he really needs to find some way to offer up a redline or some other reference to show how he thinks it should be.

The comment about the editor rejecting it--yeah I agree. But why would I submit a wip to an editor? Nonsensical speculation to back up a point.