Demosthenes74

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Ahaha . . .Castle just posted in the COV general forum . . .the nullifiers have a mag 100 hold that lasts 1/4 of a second. There's your toggle drop

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Geez. I hate that.

(The concept of a hold itself is fine. I hate the holds, though, where you don't even KNOW you've been held and after you start getting whomped on, you realize for some reason all your toggles have been down. It's a lot better to see yourself get held for a second, just so you know what happened.)

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Hold on a second.

Castle did NOT post in the COV forum that Nullifiers have a hold power. He said that another mob had such a power.

Also, so what? The original poster described having Unstoppable ended prematurely with all the negative results. A Hold power doesn't do that, since Unstoppable is not a toggle...it's a click.

One of three things is happening here:

1) Our original poster is mistaken. He clicked Unstoppable earlier than he thought and jumped into a group of badguys right before it wore off. It wore off normally and he got destroyed.

2) Our original poster was the victim of some hideous but not recreatable bug. Maybe some freakish server loop-lag-thingy cause Unstoppable to crash after 10 seconds for no good reason.

3)Nullifiers have some power the devs don't know about.

4)Longbow has some power that has some whacky bug in it that IS recreatable and hasn't been found.

Personally, I think (1) is the most likely. But who knows?

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there you go, hit the nail on the head there, thats exactly what im getting at. But I know Unstoppable has a activation time of 3 mins, and I only just poped it on before I agroed the mob, so max time it was on was maybe 10 seconds, and Im being generous there.

That is a good possibility though, some form of bug/lag mixed together to give me some ill effect, it was during that day that we kept getting buttloads of "lost connection to mapserver".

Either way, it sucks.

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So, any hope that they could tone down the end drain from Sappers while they are at it?

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Its not the end drain or the toggle droppers thats even all that bad, I've been taking on these guys lvl 40+ before I even had Unstoppable, the fact is...when I pop unstoppable (a non-toggle defensive power) I expect to be just that...unstoppable for 3 minutes, now when I pop this thing and run into a mob even with all my toggles on, and they did this thing where it drops my unstoppable and I gain the negative effects off of it (1/16 hp and no end) then all my toggles drop and im dead. Its not fair and it is downright cheep, whatever this attack is...that can drop a non-toggled buff is down right cheap, and even if it this non-toggled buff did get dropped, it wouldnt suck quite so bad if I didnt lose all my end and hp from the negative effect of it dropping. Its something similar to a brute jumping into a mob and popping nova (but you dont get any dmg) its suicide... I would understand if these longbow nullifiers had this mystery attack (which has been stated) and it does knock all non-toggled buffs THEN the spec-ops hits you with the EMP grenade and saps all your end so your toggles drop and everything shoots the crap out of you...thats fine, because its not cheep, its a well put together team with a good attack strategy that we would have to find a way to overcome. But what I experienced was down right cheep and needs to be looked into.

Heres something I found to be quite annoying, after grinding my way up to lvl 38 I finally got Unstoppable, you cant imagine how happy I was. So I go around, kill a few named bosses, and decide that its acutally ALMOST worth the 1000 seconds you have to wait for it to cool down.

Well anyways, I continue on and find myself in a group taking on longbow, I feel like showing off, so I pop on Unstoppable and run into the group (this being something I could do anyways with my toggles on and without Unstoppable, just wanted to do it without losing any HP) I find myself automatically at 1/16th HP, all my end gone, and my toggles knocked off. then one longbow shot me and I was dead,

I litteraly went from Dmg resistance GOD to dead in under 1 second.

Now I had to wonder how did this happen? Turns out Nullifiers have an attack the knock all buffs off you, when my Unstoppable got knocked, its negative effect (down to 1/16th health and loss of all end) kicked in. From there on, once your out of end, you dont have anymore toggles, and your just as squishy as everybody else and it only takes 1 hit to kill you.

So if it were 1 on 1 with me and a Nullifer, technically this Nullifier could kill me in 2 hits... pop off a lucky nullify shot, then shoot me again, I'm done and gone.

I'd just like to point that out and should and DEV read this, maybe you might want to consider making us people with unstoppable not take the negative effect of the power should it get knocked off of us. Because when I (lvl 38) can easily take on a lvl 41 named boss or dang near solo an AV, 1 lvl 38 leiutenant should NOT be able to kill me.