Beef_Cake

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
No one in this thread is asking for anything more then a chance to earn the badge which they never had the right to earn when the badge was introduced to all of us.


[/ QUOTE ]

You had that chance ( and heck you STILL DO) just create a new toon... you could have done it then, you can do it now.
SIMPLE AS THAT!!!!!

Edit: unless I missed something, NOTHING stopped you from creating a new toon when Isolator & badges were introduced. Deal with it.

[/ QUOTE ]

DING DING DING!

We have another person with reading comprehension!

I said in a earlier post that most of the player base including myself never knew that this badge was not going to be available other then Outbreak and besides, I was not going to delete a level 50 where I spent all of my time and money to get him to 50 for a badge. if my hero was level 30 or below, then yeah I would have done so.

I hope this was simple enough for you to understand this time, as I hate repeating myself to people who can not read a simple thread and understand it at the same time.

[ QUOTE ]
So aparently you've never seen Beefcake's sig?!? Nor Burnin_Ups?

Beefcakes:

[ QUOTE ]
Proud Member & Captain of Jagged Legion
Pinnacle's Leading Badge Holder for CoH and CoV

Beef Cake - 318 Badges
Day Walker - 209 Badges

Global Handle: @Beef Cake


[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]

Whats the problem with my sig?

Its put there because I wanted to, I'm proud of what I have accomplished so why not share it. Its not there to say ha ha I have more then you, because in the long run, everyone could have the same count in badges. Again there is no winner, its just a hobby that I take part of when I play this game.

If you or anyone else is jealous of that , then thats your problem you too can accomplish the same thing if you are dedicated as I am.

You here to look down on people too Tremere?

No one in this thread is asking for anything more then a chance to earn the badge which they never had the right to earn when the badge was introduced to all of us.

No people did not want to delete their hero to get a badge, some people did and most did not, I know of 4 people on 6 servers that deleted their toons, that is not many if you ask me.

And NO, the option to skip tutorial was not introduced when badges where here, we all had to go through tutorial as you do now in CoV. I may be mistaken but I believe the option to skip Tutorial was in Issue 3 maybe late issue 2 after badges were introduced.

But never once did I or anyone I see in this thread ask for more then what we missed the chanced to get. hell I was even willing to be lowered to level 1 and start my career over if I could as long as I did not lose the badges I currently have and work my way back up to 50.

I wish I could find the old Poll someone created on a different site seeing how many would like the chance to get this badge, because I specifically remember there were over 1,000 people who said yes, and only 71 or 81 said no.

Not that makes a difference but the numbers show how many actually got the short end of the stick when badges came out.

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
spoiled badgers!
I want I want!
...
Ok you all may continue with the I want I want, screw the little guy screw the little guy

[/ QUOTE ]


Hmm. I'm not quite sure why you chose to respond to my post with this, seeing as I basically agree with you; perhaps it was just a case of clicking on the most immediately available post.

The point is a valid one, and I have yet to see anyone offer a rational rebuttal of it: the majority of those saying "Pre I2" badgers should be given the opportunity to collect all the badges will NOT say that post-I2 badgers should have the same opportunity. They believe that Isolator--and presumably any other new low-level badges introduced to the game--should be made available to them, but when asked why newer players shouldn't be allowed a chance to get the Halloween badges, for instance, they evade the question with a vague, "The Holiday badges are different."

Why are they different? Well, the rationalizations are generall vague, but for the most part they boil down to: "Because we have them and the newer players don't, and we like it that way."

In short, the argument boils down to "Older players should get preferential treatment."

Me? I say that's bullpucky. I couldn't care less whether all the badges are available or not, but it should be all or nothing. Either everyone gets a chance at every badge, or we just accept that characters from different time periods in the game will have different badges.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well I for one, do not feel the new heroes should be denied the special event badges. As I said earlier in this post the special event badge has the chance to still return as no redname has ever said that they will not bring them back, we have already seen 1 return, so its a sign that the others may as well.

As for the annual badges, this may be a little hard. I have quite a few heroes I forgot to log in on this one but I feel this I will never get as this is my mistake I missed them, so I'm not going to ask for them, if the chance we do get it then great but I'm not expecting to. I feel this is a one a year badge and thats it. If you were not here or forgot to log in as I did then I guess we are out of luck on this particular badge

[ QUOTE ]
no ones making you delete your 50. i was 20 or something when i discovered jailbird and that toon is still around doesnt have jailbird but plenty of my others do. just roll another, get the badge you missed, and include it in your total badge count.

[/ QUOTE ]

Dude, that is the most ridiculous comment I have heard yet.

I have one badge collector I call my main, I want the badge on him, thats what is important to me and the many who still need it as they are in the same boat as I am, they want it on their main badge collector / main hero.

To reroll another toon and then get isolator and say "Hey, my main has Isolator now, but I had to get it on my alt but its still my account, so I have the complete collection"

LOL

Pathetic, if you ask me.

Well thats your fault you didn't know about it, it was there since day one and since beta. Everyone of these badges in CoV were found before the game went live, so if you missed it, then thats your lack of knowing.

isolator was intriduced on a whim and we never had the heads up that this badge would be there therefore we didn't have the option of researching for this badge as the CoV players did before the game went live, so its a completely different scenario.

Why are you not complaining? I have no idea, maybe you found you missed it after you created your character and had the chance to reroll at a very low level and therefore not missing any event badges along the way. So you lose nothing, so you have no reason to complain, and or you are not a avid badge collector like the other 153 people on this thread that would like the chance to get this badge since they did not know or have a heads up to get this badge without having to delete a level 50 hero to get a badge.

Really? What new content was added to the Tutorial?

As far as I remmeber the jailbird has been there since day one. So I believe your statement is in fact incorrect.

As for isolator, it was introduced along with every other badge in the game and at the time the badge was introduced, no one knew of it and or no one knew that this badge would never be able to be obtained outside of outbreak.

So please tell me what new content has been added to Outbreak and or Breakout since the release?

I didn't think so.

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
If any new content for low level heroes or villains is introduced in the game, you do not have to re roll another toon in order to do the content, that is what the exemplar system is for.

[/ QUOTE ]

if you found a way to exemplar your villain and get the jailbird badge let me know.

[/ QUOTE ]

See again you may read it but you do not understand what you are reading here.

I said if any new content is added to the game, you can go back I never said you can go back to the Tutorial. Reading comprehension is a pain huh?


[ QUOTE ]

you do have a change to earn it. roll another toon


[/ QUOTE ]

See you didn't read this entire thread or you would know that the talk here is about pre-i2 heroes being able to get the badge, we are not talking about new heroes that you create to get the badge.

Sheessh, why do I even bother with some people...lol

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Here's my biggest beef with the whole "I want isolator" thing...
Me, I'd rather see the time and effort put into new content, or fixing the preexisting bugs.

[/ QUOTE ]

How about the best of both worlds?

We know Isolator in it self is a flop, we have all tried to stop the outbreak ...but it is still there being fed by villains. So our first career move in Pargon city is still ongoing. A plot that goes up to Arachnos himself. Technically, Positron can work this into the badge text and offer another way to get it we all would be happy campers

[/ QUOTE ]

There are numerous ways to bring the Outbreak back into the story line of the game.

I've seen many many episodes of Super Hero cartoons, and comic books ect..ect.. where the hero thought he had taken care of a villain and or task at hand only for it to sneak up on him later in the future of his or her career.

Yeah, I too agree and want more new content and I feel content is more important then a badge, I'm not demanding that Isolator be given to us ASAP, but it would be nice to see that happen in the future.

I honestly can't want until the dev team adds and fixes many of the bugs with badges all together even the progress bars for the badges, this would be more important then getting a badge I missed, but again it would be nice to know that eventually we will have the opportunity to get this badge for our main badge collectors..

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

I can't speak for anyone else, but I got all of the mission-related badges from my own missions at the proper level for them. The only badges I would not have been able to get without the exemplar system in place are the ones for the Striga, Croatoa, and first 2 Shadow Shard TFs.


[/ QUOTE ]

See even you of all people the person that hates me most, agrees with me, So you see allowing people to go back and get badges they missed is a good thing.

[/ QUOTE ]

You're right, I do agree that letting people go back and get badges they couldn't have gotten because that badge didn't exist when they were the proper level to get it is a good thing. The point I've been making, though, is that all the people who were around pre-I2 who don't have Isolator, missed their chance on it purely by choice. You could have a character with Isolator, and all the Halloween badges and Cold Warrior and Celebrant, etc. I do. ewokspy does. You could have, too. You chose not to, because you weren't that into badges at the time, and now that you've decided to be into badges hardcore, you regret your earlier decision.

I especially find this argument offensive coming from you, because I know that if you could have gotten the hospital bug to work and get back into Outbreak, you would have done it, or if you'd gotten enough of the Contaminated that you say show up at random in some of your missions(although the ones in missions don't seem to count for the badge; start a new toon, and count your kills, and I think you'll see that the ones in the mission don't count toward the badge), then I seriously doubt you would be pushing for Isolator to be made available to everyone.

Btw, one of the main things that irritates me about you is the fact that you're perfectly willing to cheat to get badges, and then you have the nuts to complain when you get caught cheating and have your ill-gotten loot taken away. Like when you used a bug in the Arena to get into opposite-faction badge missions, and then whined when they took away the badges.

[ QUOTE ]
You did and so do "MANY MANY " others. So to allow 1 more badge to be able to go back and get it will not ruin the game.

[/ QUOTE ]

You're right, it won't ruin the game. It will actually only be a minor annoyance to me, and if they do it, I'm not going to stand around complaining about the fact that they did it. I'll just sigh, shake my head, and then pretty much forget about the whole issue. But I don't think they should do it.

[ QUOTE ]
See my point here, its rude to exclude long time members of a badge they never had the chance to get on their main badge collecting hero.

[/ QUOTE ]

And what I've been saying the whole time is that you did have the chance to get it on your main badge collecting hero, and you chose not to. There was nothing but you preventing you from either rerolling your main or making a new toon to be your badge toon.

And if, at some point in the nebulous future, they decide to make a badge that I can't get with Beth for whatever reason, will I be upset? Hell, yes. Actually, I'm already upset that I won't be able to get Jailbird with Beth if I switch her to CoV. But will I be able to live with it? Sure. Because I just straight up didn't have the chance to get that badge without losing others; it's not that I had the chance and didn't take it.

[/ QUOTE ]

First off, I didnt cheat to get a badge, I am the one who sent in the bug report letting the devs know how I got the badges, I even had the thought of them taking them away, which they did after a while, probably after a few cry babies like yourself complained

So I was expecting to lose those particular badges, but not once did I whine or cry about them being taken away, I do recall saying they were taken away in a post on another forum, but I did not go on and on about it, I was sort of disappointed about it, but it was expected. So don't accuse me of cheating the game when I found a loophole and even reported it.

Offensive coming from me? Trust me if I get enough bugged missions that had contaminated in it to get me a badge, Im sure it wouldnt have been taken away, and from my bugged missions which I have only had one and I killed 47 contaminated. not enough to award the badge, would it have been taken away, doubtful, would you have carried on and cried about it to be removed from me, highly likely.

Do I care what you think, hell no!

But thanks again for agreeing with me that all pre-i2 heroes should get the chance they never had before

[ QUOTE ]
basically you want access to content designed for new characters that wasnt in game when you made your character. this is quite similar to the new lv 1 contact matthew burke for villains. he was added quite a while after cov went live and many people were unable to do his missions without rerolling. do you hear people complaining about that? no. because the devs are going to add new content to the game all the time. some is going to be for low levels. if you miss newly added content because you had already outleveled it, thats why we have more than one character slot.

[/ QUOTE ]


I'm sorry but if you are going to reply to me, make sure you know what you are talking about.

If any new content for low level heroes or villains is introduced in the game, you do not have to re roll another toon in order to do the content, that is what the exemplar system is for.

If the low level content offers a badge for doing a certain mission like others do, you can exemplar and still get the badge.

So as you see there is nothing lost, you can still get it.

Its apparent, that you have not read this entire thread but yet you think your uneducated post will clear things up, but it didn't.

We are talking about a badge that pre-i2 players never had the chance to earn as everyone else did.

If you didn't realize that then maybe you should have read the thread entirely before making such a obtuse reply.

[ QUOTE ]

I can't speak for anyone else, but I got all of the mission-related badges from my own missions at the proper level for them. The only badges I would not have been able to get without the exemplar system in place are the ones for the Striga, Croatoa, and first 2 Shadow Shard TFs.


[/ QUOTE ]

See even you of all people the person that hates me most, agrees with me, So you see allowing people to go back and get badges they missed is a good thing.

You did and so do "MANY MANY " others. So to allow 1 more badge to be able to go back and get it will not ruin the game.

If not for being able to go back and get badges you missed, you would be even more upset when a new badge is implemented in the game that is to be obtained in a lower level TF.

As it stands now, if a new TF was to be introduced in the game everyone could go get it regardless of level why because you can auto exemp to the TF, but if not for the auto exemp then many would be upset, specially the badge collectors out there that "REROLLED" their hero to get "EVERY" badge in the game. Because now you would see that there is a new badge and you can not get it.

WHY?

Hey, tough you had the chance but you blew it, roll another toon and get it!

See my point here, its rude to exclude long time members of a badge they never had the chance to get on their main badge collecting hero.

Thats the point I'm trying to get across.

No, no redname has ever made the statement saying they would definitely come back, but the chance is in the open as we have already seen one return, so it is possible we will see others, I do not know for sure.

As far as I know there is no special badge showing the amount of time you have been with this game, I think Celebrant was intended for that, but all that is, is a badge saying thanks to the heroes who were here at this particular time Cryptic chose to celebrate their anniversary. It never meant you were here for a year.

And trust me I'm all for them giving the pre-i2 heroes the chance to get Isolator, I fell in that category when badges were introduced, so I know where you are coming from.

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Serious. Liquid if it truely was that unimportant then why cant we go back and get it?

[/ QUOTE ]

Because it's not important enough?

The irony in the argument that is so often made, is that you're arguing that it's not important, and therefore it doesn't matter if you have it, so because it doesn't matter, and it's not important, they should do it.

If it's worth doing, then it should be important. If it's not important, and it doesn't matter, then why is it worth doing?

[/ QUOTE ]

Well I look at it this way, many people ask for things in this game that really isn't important and they get.

What you ask? Easy Costume parts, to me this means nothing, I could care less about costume parts, yeah to many it makes their hero unique or special, well the same goes for the badges to the many who collect them, its just as important to us as costumes are to others.

Either way you look at it, its content. new items..ect..ect..

Now the question is why? Why are costume parts that are not important to me always brought to the game? because the game doesn't reflect on just me, it reflects on the "MANY" other players who play this game and that is what they want to make the game more enjoyable to them.

Well its the same for badges for us, we want them not because its important to the gaming community, we want them because its content and that is what we enjoy out of the game. badges are just as important to some as costume parts are to "MANY" others.

I've seen more posts about costume parts that people missed and can't get now then I see about Isolator, but not once have I dropped in there to say "ABSOLUTELY NOT!" , "You missed it so move on", why because if that is want the community feels they want, then the choice is up to the dev team whether they want to give it to them, I never said forget about this crap, its not important, I held my tongue and worried about what I enjoyed about the game.

But I guess some people would rather stir up the forums with negativity rather then posting in threads that suit their needs. Or maybe they have no needs and just want to cause mischief to the many others that want to enjoy the game the way they like it.

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
If the badge is that important to you as it appears to be (to some of you), then re-roll and get it and go from the start.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's not really much of a option anymore. It was after I2, or when ever badges came out, up to the point of the halloween event. But after that, deleting and/or recreating the character means losing out on a number of badges, that they can't get again.

[/ QUOTE ]

There will always be badges that people don't have the opportunity to get.

By asking for this one to be given to you, the result is that the badge is cheapened for all those that did delete/recreate a hero in order to get it.

People can get all the badges that are currently available in-game, they just have to make a choice of where their priorities are.

[/ QUOTE ]
These points would all be addressed by my compromise proposal (that I made a few posts ago) of a new badge to act as a 'replacement' for Isolator for Pre-I2 characters.

[/ QUOTE ]
If a badge was made in the replacement of Isolator and only heroes who did not have isolator could get this, it would be the same situation but only now it would be reverse, the Heroes with Isolator would say "Why can we not get this badge?" "Why are we excluded because someone did not get it when they first started this game"

To me if a new badge is going to be made it should be made available to everyone!

Look at Risk Taker for the heroes now, I bet this badge was intended to be as it is now, but so many people complained about not being able to get it because they had already out leveled it, they are now allowing high level heroes the chance to get it in Recluse's Victory and other zones.

No badge in this game should be kept from anyone other then the special rare badges such as Celebrant.

The Holiday event badges, will come back, when we do not know, but they will eventually.

So I feel the new Celebrant badge will offer a special gladiator is not fair to many who did not know of this, and I think this too was a poor judgement on the dev team as well.

No badge should be kept from anyone, its part of the content/fun in the game you want to enjoy. And when things like this is kept from people it makes them a little disappointed and not enjoy the game knowing that they will never be able to consider their Hero or Villain complete!

Look at how happy the entire community was and still is knowing that if they miss a badge while leveling up their hero or Villain they can always go back and get it.

With Isolator you can not do it, but yet I seen people say "You had your chance you blew it, so move on"

I feel that is a rude thing to say when I bet you have many times went back and collected badges you had a chance to get but never did, and if not for the exemplar system many people would be missing many of the TF badges.

I just think if you are going to allow every badge in the game to be obtained by any level hero, then I feel isolator should fit that category as well.

What they should had done was made Isolator a badge for completing the actual Tutorial rather then a kill x badge.

Because if I recall right, before badges were even in this game, I remember the Tutorial was a mandatory thing as it is in CoV now, you did not have the option to skip Tutorial, you had to go through it.

This would have been a perfect way to introduce badges to the community as well by awarding this badge to people who completed certain things throughout the game.

That way after they left Outbreak people would know they could earn other badges by doing certain things as well.

Anyway thats my thoughts on it.

/ignored

man thats my 3rd person I ignored, I love it...lol

Liquid, come up with as many anologies as you want, hey I know quote the McDonalds post...lol

It still does not justify why pre-issue 2 heroes could not be given the chance to earn it just as everyone else did when badge came out and to this day.

Isolator is not a yearly badge and does not change each year, its the same badge day in and day out. So that does not compare to your skipping jump rope contests.

As for the special event badges, like I said before earlier in this thread which Im sure you didn't read since all you like to do is argue over what someone else wants. But all your suggestions are perfectly fine...lol

...better yet, Im not repeating myself, not worth the time to argue with you because you are so anti everything people suggest.

Now I can see why your forum posts are so high, you spend more time spreading your anti-ism on the forums rather then playing the game.

Have fun tearing this thread apart too.

[ QUOTE ]

Well, as I stated in Emeralds original thread, I'd be willing to compromise IF the "new" earnable Isolator badge had different text.

[/ QUOTE ]

BTW? Who the hell made you God Almighty to say you will compromise? Like its your choice if the badge is brought to us by the devs, they will do it, not because you said you will compromise.

[ QUOTE ]
I would just like to add my vote for not letting people go back and get the Isolator badge after they leave Outbreak. Especially all the people that were around before badges were released. You know why? Because I rerolled my main when badges were introduced, specifically so I could get Isolator, and all y'all could've done the same thing. I was already in my 30's when I deleted and rerolled, but I wanted all the badges, so I did it, and I have no sympathy for anyone that could've done it but chose not to.

The people who just didn't know the badge existed before they left Outbreak, well, them I sympathize with. But only a little.

[/ QUOTE ]

You rerolled, that was your choice, that is not something that should be expected by all heroes pre-issue2 to do as you did. And to even ask such a thing of all of the heroes pre-issue2 to delete their heroes and reroll just to earn a badge is ridiculous.

Thats like Cryptic, saying sorry to all pre-i2 heroes and say if you want the badge on your existing heroes, you will have to delete all of your heroes and start all over again, but hey thanks for the time you spent working your way to 50 and a special thanks to the money you spent doing it.

Nowstart all over and pay us more money for the badge if you want it.

Yeah that sounds like a business choice to me alright...lol

Pathetic if you ask me.

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

And as I stated before, many heroes that come to these forums, that would like the chance to earn this badge has a legitimate reason to ask for the chance, because they never had the fair chance to earn this badge being a pre-i2 hero.

If you can not distinguish the difference between the two then, I feel sorry for you.

[/ QUOTE ]

It is true that there were heroes pre issue 2 that can not get the badge right now, that did not stop you from starting a hero right then and there and earning the badges. This would have been a wise decision if badge hunting was as important to you then as it is now. Also, by doing this, none of the special events would have been missed by that character either because they came out post I2 also. Yes, you would have had to start a new character, but being the type of player you seem to be, it doesn't seem to be a problem. Now though, you can't go back and do what I am suggesting because it would mean the loss of all of the special event badges that you probably own, putting you in the same position as everyone else.

Really, because of a failure to act [i.e. building character right when issue 2 released] you have put yourself in the position you are now.

I will say I wouldn't mind seeing isolater available. I have it on most of my characters. I just wanted to give a constructive view on your post.

[/ QUOTE ]

I appreciate your feedback. its thew best I have yet to receive from someone that wasn't in one way or another rude.

But this is from my point of view, if I would have known that isolator would never have been brought outside of Outbreak I may have considered the to reroll, but I never knew and nor did anyone else at the time.

If my hero was only level 30 I would have rerolled without pause, but my main hero was level 50, so for me to completely delete a lvl 50 hero is asking someone too much to do just to get a badge.

I had other heroes at that time who gotten the isolator, but to me they are not my mains, my main hero that I chose to collect these badges on was my tank, so I set forth collectiing them, by the time I found out that Isolator was not going to be brought outside of Outbreak the halloween Event had done pass, so at that point there was no turning back.

But regardless of my story, many others have been through the same thing as you can see on this huge topic and 98% of them are asking for the chance to earn this badge which they were denied when the badges were introduced.

So all us badge collectors can do is wait patiently and see what the outcome is, and hope that we will be given that chance which we never had.

Your entire post supports exactly what I already stated so thanks for understanding my thoughts.

As for the celebrant, I too already said this is a come and gone event badge, if you missed it then there is nothing more you can do to get this badge. I even missed it on some of my heroes, but you don't see me complaining as many of you are, why because the points you and everyone else makes is unreasonable.

As for rolling a new toon, if it were as simple to do this and earn every badge I already have I would do so, but I would be losing many badges for 1 badge that is pretty much given to every new hero that goes through outbreak.

And as I stated before, many heroes that come to these forums, that would like the chance to earn this badge has a legitimate reason to ask for the chance, because they never had the fair chance to earn this badge being a pre-i2 hero.

If you can not distinguish the difference between the two then, I feel sorry for you.

[ QUOTE ]
ok, to all you players who made toons before this badge was availaible. I say this oh snap you missed out on a badge... TOUGH!!

I missed out on 8 badges that the Devs will NEVER, I repeat NEVER allow new toons to attain, just because were made after the event, so quit you whining I'll never get Celebrant because I wasnt around, & you'll never get Isolator because you weren't around. plain & simple!!!

So my new toon has ONE badge that your old toon doesnt, so what, your old toon has 8 badges that I'll NEVER be able to get!

is this 'fair' to me, no.
is the dev's giving old toons the ability to acquire the one badge I have that they cant, without me being able to also acquire the badges they have that I dont - no

why is it all the old badgers cant stand the idea of 1 little timy badge they'll never get, when I'm stuck with 8 that I'll never get?

Fair is fair & I think that if Isolator is opened up to older players, then I should be able to get Celebrant & the Winter Lord badge!

repeating my main point again!

a badgin fool

[/ QUOTE ]

All I want to know is where or who said that heroes who missed the Halloween badges and or the Winter event badges will never get the chance to get them again?

I swear I never recall seeing or reading this from any post by a redname.

So that would leave it open for future events to happen again, I mean one of the Winter event badges already came back, I didn't see not one person complain about that. It seems everyone was happy.

So until I see a redname make a post telling us heroes we will never ever see these Special event badges again, then i suggest you stop whinning.

As for the annual event badges, these I can see you missing and never returning again, many of my toons, I forgot to log in, and thats my problem, I have never complained about missing them as it was my fault, if you were not a CoH hero when this event went live, then you too have no right to complain.

You were not even here for the event is not a reasonable excuse to say bring it back. Many of us heroes were here for the release of isolator and never had the fair chance to even get this badge.

So yes, we do deserve the right to earn it as everyone else did and does.

Pokemon...lol yeah I can see that being my pokemon

But yeah it does suck, myself and many others will have to do extra hard work, but hey, at least its time to be fair to the many who honestly missed it.

Plus in the long run, it gives the veterans players that are still here the chance to skip tutorial now and still be able to earn the badge another way.

[ QUOTE ]

I don't know about other people, but I dislike it because it goes against the entire concept of the badge system.

[/ QUOTE ]

Badge System? What badge system, as far as I know the so called badge system allows you to go back and get every badge in this game except for the isolator. So by allowing one more badge to be able to go back and get it, would not break the badge System...lol

[ QUOTE ]

If someone didn't achieve the task (in this case, having the interest to arrest 100 contaminated before leaving for Atlas or Galaxy), they don't deserve the badge.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well I know my tank which is my main defeated or arrested way more then 1 hundred contaminated while I was in Outbreak, but because datamining did not exist when badges were implimented, I still did not receive this badge, is that fair to me or anyone else that did the same thing?

[ QUOTE ]

Badges aren't supposed to be difficult to get, they're supposed to be a marking of what you did and did not do. If you didn't arrest 100 contaminated, you don't deserve Isolator.

[/ QUOTE ]

Again how do you know if someone did or didn't complete the task to earn this badge before they were implimented.? You can't because as I said datamining did not exist.

[ QUOTE ]

It's not about the intrinsic value of the badge, it's about the cheapening of what the badge means. Not knowing nor it not being available at the time of your first character's creation (a group to which several of my characters belong, before anyone says anything) about it is no reason to cheapen what the badge means.

[/ QUOTE ]

How is giving the chance to the many pre-i2 heroes to earn the Isolator because they were on the short end of the stick when this badge was made live going to ruin the meaning. its not, a new member of the game could come see you and then see someone who earned it later if it is implimented and the badge will mean the same. Its a badge to add to your collection.

Well to us badge collectors it is something we need, so don't get people started with negative feedback, make it constructive if you wish to post about something.

Back on topic here...

I would even be willing to go back to level 1 just to get in outbreak and have to work y way back to level 50, but I would want to keep the current badges I have earned as of todate.

I would love to play my hero from level 1 again and in the process grab isolator

Give me another reason to stay here longer, to get my tank back to level 50 ...lol

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Cuppa's been trying, but she has yet to be able to convince the devs to throw us a bone.

[/ QUOTE ]

IF we were to ever add a way to get Isolator post-Tutorial, it would most likely be incredibly hard to get. Annoyingly hard. Irritatingly hard. There-would-be-a-zillion-people-asking-to-make-it-easier hard.

But IF we were to add it, it would be available nonetheless.

[/ QUOTE ]

Bring it on!

Im not one to complain, I would be happy to at least have the chance to get it.

Hard or not, its more of a chance then what we have now.

Many of us have been here pre-i1 and we never had the chance to get this as it was not datamined nor could we go back to get the badge. So I and many others would do anything to collect this badge on our main badge collectors.

So you could tell me I had to kill 1000 contaminated monsters that gave no xp, no reaward at all and with brawl I wouldn't care, I would do it