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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill

I think you need to get glasses, Geko. I'm not "dismissing" the trials. They're there. I'm saying I'm going to enjoy the small team stuff more. Why? Because I will. Because that's the size I'm comfortable with.

You don't like that, you can't see that without being dismissive of *my* preferences, then too bad for you. You're doing nothing but antagonizing people with that attitude - as you turn around and act completely hypocritical by dismissing badges, etc. earlier. Your antagonism doesn't help anyone.



Asking for an alternate path (that's not punitive) is not saying "other people can't have content they might like."

But again, you refuse to get this, so it's not worth trying to explain *once again* to you.

You get your raids. Yay. Good for you.
I get some small team stuff. I have something I can enjoy.
My concerns over the incarnate system (basically just feeding into itself and my reaction to that) have been stated, rather well I think, by Sam, so I'm just going to let that statement sit. And my hope for using it (appropriately) in revisiting the shadow shard has been stated - yes, I know, no pointer to that in any way by the devs, but the idea's been thrown out there. If something like that happens, that makes the incarnate system something more than a closed little sub-world, great. if not, well, the system's not all that appealing to me. I don't get on the raid for gear to raid for gear to raid.... treadmill.

If you enjoy it, hey, go nuts, have fun.

Originally Posted by Gangrel_EU

In an issue with no *ANNOUNCED* solo content.

Originally Posted by Eva Destruction

Content that doesn't require teams, duh. They didn't get it, obviously, so um, surprise surprise, somebody got nothing they wanted in an update their subscription helps pay for, they're going to complain.

Originally Posted by Zombie Man

What *I* would like is for you and Eiko and the handful of solo-only-ists to stop making *every* *single* *thread* about the near or far future of the game about "Devs hate soloists."

Every thread about I19.

Every thread about 19.5.

Every thread about I20.

Every thread about Incarnates.

Every thread about rewards.

Every patch notes thread.

Over and over and over and over and over again.

We know. You said it. Go back and count how many posts you made with this very same point.

The Mods gave those of you with this position your own thread to get your feedback and still you piss on every other thread with the same lament. They heard you. What do you want now?

But you know what? Each time you make your case I and others will be there to point out how extreme it is and how absurd it is for an MMORPG. It's not going to get any traction with the Devs. So, keep it up. Post the same thing more and more and more. We'll be there to bury it like you're trying to bury every thread with your multi-posted position. Congratulations on your lobbying efforts.

En garde.

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

I stopped seeing these forums as the friendly, mature community that "we" like to pat ourselves on the back as being about six months ago. I'm not sure if that's when the change happened, or if that's when I personally noticed it, that being the the first time I started to get actually concerned for the game and expressing "unpopular" opinions.

However, the mere fact is that if you hold an unpopular opinion here and you dare express it, you become a pariah, and otherwise reasonable people will not think twice to resort to surprisingly low-brow insults, passive-aggressive goading tactics, false dichotomies, opinion-as-fact and a whole slew of other malicious argument, all seemingly with the hope of stamping out dissenting thought.

When my stomach turns just seeing certain people's names, I can no longer say that this is a nice, friendly community in good conscience, because it isn't, not unless you filter out a great many people.

I hold no obligation to be "understanding" of the work of a professional development team, a team that I am a paying customer to. If I like the product, I will say so, and have on many occasions that people conveniently forget. If I don't like the product, I will also say so. That's what the forums are for. City of Heroes differentiates itself from other games through the direct line of communication with have with the development team, however much some posters would like to sever that line. I intend to use this to make my opinion know, for what that counts. My honest, unedited opinion, not a reined in version that omits important points.

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I don't like I20. I like it even less than I thought I would when people were insulting my intelligence and telling me how much of an idiot I was for doomcrying without having seen what's in the Issue. In 20 Issues so far, I have not seen one that has had so little for me, and I count things like PvP which I don't do, base building which I don't care about, Inventions which I'm not interested in, Safeguards which I hate, badges which I'm not interested in and and really any Issue that I can think of to name.

Furthermore, I have never before felt so genuinely depressed for the future of the game than I do right at this moment. I see a feature list which horrifies me to my very core, and I can just see the pride with which it is written, as if saying "Tune in for more of this!" I'm a patient man, I'll see this through... But I've never, ever had to rely on patience before.

This is my opinion of I20. If you don't like it, you are free to not read anything I say ever again, because it doesn't look like I'll be saying anything new. If my dislike of the Issue makes you angry, then that reflects on your own personality more than anything else. Me not liking the Issue shouldn't take away from your ability to enjoy it because - as I was reminded countless times - my $15 is worthless, so no-one should really care if I stay or go or how I feel about the game. I'm one of those repugnant solo players, after all, and as such you won't be teaming with me anyway. There's no reason for you to care.

I'm done arguing for my right to have an opinion, an I don't intend to do so again.

Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm

It costs 20 threads for a common component and 60 threads for an uncommon component, you need all 4 uncommons to make a rare component. You need 4 rares to make a Very rare component.

You can convert 10 shards to 6 threads every 20h or an unlimited amount of 10:3 conversions.

Originally Posted by Dispari

This is one of those "you can't please people" things isn't it?

This issue has too much stuff. They should've taken some of it out.

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Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm

3 bill in addition to thousands or so of shards.

Originally Posted by reiella

If you do quit, put the reason why and fill out the exit survey .

On the note of proliferation, just curious what else is left? I see some [mostly stuff amongst the melee damage powersets], just really curious as to what you're looking for in proliferation.

Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm

you also need 1 of each of 4 rare salvage with is an extra 500mill each. so 3 bill

Originally Posted by EvilGeko

We talked recently about this. I've been holding my tongue and not really arguing against you with the stridency that I am known for. But I feel at this point that you are being needlessly provocative for someone who claims to not like arguing on the forums.

If you continue down this patch of arguing against what I believe are very positive changes to the game, then I shall respond in kind.

Originally Posted by Rajani Isa

First I just want to reinforce what White Hot Flash and others mentioned - they have never dumped all the features/bits/etc in the initial info page for an issue. I could see them not mentioning power proliferati. (common ice staplers/scrappers!)


Power customization was a major system. It was not just a few powers/costume bits/etc.

Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm

Errr. I forgot we had Power Customization. I remember i16 for Super Sidekicking and the crappy MM bugs associated with it we still have to this day. I was the first to notice the pet death bug when super-exemplared and upon zoning.

Originally Posted by EU_Damz

Incarnate XP is only available during the raids. Each raid gives different XP and the different XP [so two different types of incarnate xp] automatically go towards their repsective incarnate slot to unlock.
After 3 runs of getting to the final stage we got the interface slot to roughly 60% unlocked, however you can use shards and other incarnate salvage to "convert" into xp. However since this is the shortcut version, it costs a LOT of influence.

The very rare salvage costs 1 BILLION influence for example. Thats if you want to skip the raids entirely and just use shards to solo/convert.

Originally Posted by EU_Damz

I20 will bring the next FOUR incarnate levels. Not just lore . . . . .

Edit: Make sure you check them out when you have your sneak, they are VERY VERY good!

Originally Posted by EU_Damz

I20 will bring the next FOUR incarnate levels. Not just lore . . . . .

Edit: Make sure you check them out when you have your sneak, they are VERY VERY good!

Originally Posted by Lothic

Woohoo! Broadcasts for Incarnate power leveling for teh win!

Originally Posted by Master Zaprobo

Quick Notes...

• Devs are here playing along side us (and giving out codes)
• The Lambda Trial looks great - and rewards are turned on
• Incarnate Shards are not used for the Judgement Slot - Incarnate Threads are
• Incarnate Slots are opened by being in the Trial and earning "Incarnate XP" - the Judgement slot has it's own little XP bar
• Alpha, Judgement, Lore, Destiny and Interface are all visible on this build
• Conversion from Shards to Threads is available, but the rates are awful (I was able to convert 100 shards to get 20 or 30 (I forget right now) Threads - enough for one component)

I have screenies, but more once I finish testing (just had a CTD hence this quick post)

Originally Posted by lothic

to be reasonable people who like to play solo probably shouldn't demand the other hypothetical extreme that everything in a mmo must be 100% soloable either.

The perfect balance of solo vs. Team is probably somewhere in the middle... Just like this game happens to be geared for.
Imagine that.

Originally Posted by Necrotron

I'm really jazzed about the cross-server League hint.

Let me do a tally of top-end level 50 content.

1. Apex Task Force
2. Tin Mage Mark II Task Force
3. Barracuda Strike Force
4. Dr. Kahn Task Force
5. Imperious Task Force
6. The Lady Grey Task Force
7. Lord Recluse Strike Force
8. Statesman's Task Force
9. Mender Silos Task Force
10. Mender Silos Strike Force

As for the bigger-than-eight-man stuff...

1. Hamidon
2. Mothership Raid
3. Cathedral of Pain
4. Behavioral Adjustment Facility
5. Lambda Sector

Yep. No endgame in City of Heroes, folks. Nothing to do here. Move along.

Originally Posted by White Hot Flash

If people are gonna quit the game because they're not getting a new costume set or a new power to play with, they were probably gonna quit the game soon anyway. Those things don't define an Issue. That's not opinion, that's a fact. I know there's plenty of folks that are looking forward to the bread crumbs that come along with an Issue. My point is to not get upset at the first press release when they don't mention them, and assume they're never gonna come.

Originally Posted by Gemini_2099

It is possible I20 will be split up like I19, but I think it would be a mistake. based on perception. given that I20 is supposed to be a game changing issue top to bottom. I20 as of right now is merely forming the backbone for end game content, but end game content isn't the entire game, so an interesting dilemma is upon us... :P

Originally Posted by Necrotron

Neat.


...Wait, what?

WHAT?

Does that imply... If that's only 'currently', then in the future can we... have cross server instances? Am I reading that right?

Originally Posted by Nethergoat

devs on unicorns handing out free Super Boosters and PvP IOs.