Yogi_Bare

idealistically, yes... there should be a warning or lead time (which would happen to have been the last thread on this and the one prior; in which was stated that if the community couldn't moderate themselves... steps would be taken)... and here we are

but realistically, most Terms of Use/Service state that things can be changed without notice... don't know if that's the case with NCSoft ToS... but most of my dealings online and with special offers, events (and some not so special) have had a clause to this effect.

and i didn't say this wasn't retroactive... I said this wasn't 'retroactive charging'; to me... people have already been charged (like a criminal going up for parole)... this is just a case of your charges being reviewed... if you have a bunch of charges they don't like when they do your review (despite apologies to the community, victim or family) then you're out of luck.

If you lack a long list of charges or your charges are considered minor enough... you may get a reprieve and be allowed parole (as long you keep your nose clean)

Edit: -In the example you listed (after rereading it), it may have just been a case of them finally getting to you after the fact

(ie. someone filed charges... they conducted a slow investigation and then brought charges against you)...

it's happened to me IRL; We beat up an alleged rapist, he filed a complaint... it took them almost a year to catch up with and question us... then they arrested one of the guys involved

at Pax:

as someone here tried to tell me... rights in the real world don't apply to privileges here

however, I don't believe that... nor do I believe that this is a case of retroactive charging...

I see this more as a case of a group of parolees that are up for review (or a group of miscreants/felons going up before a parole board)... Edit: or even a military review board (on the matters of discharge)

Edit: or even in reverse... going up for promotion/raise reviews... your history will have an impact on a future decision

I will state that I would prefer a this day forward approach but even if that applied... some responders have already screwed themselves within this very thread

My additional opinion is that the implication for this was already dropped in the last Dev thread on this subject (the one that got locked) and therefore it should've been from that thread forward with most participants in the flame- war/bait/trap with Silver (or Shiver... whatever) being banned at that time

no worries

never said that it couldn't be discussed (have no idea where that assumption came from)...

just gave my take on it, reponded to a rebuttal, and then left it alone...

despite either of our opinions on the yes/no fiasco... the fact remains that the rules are in place... (as well as a rule about not petitioning -if I'm not mistaken)... it's up to you whether or not your opinion will affect how you you choose to act upon them

Part 1 - To be or not to be

Moderation begins with the self... in all things. When applied to a thread topic... It begins at the Topic Title.

If you see a topic that you are tired of seeing over and over; or a topic that otherwise doesn't do it for you... you have the option of walking away from it without entry. If you decide to enter such a thread... you are putting yourself into trouble's path.

It continues once you've entered the thread and have decided to read the post (the whole entire post with an objective mind). If you go into said thread and do not give the entire topic details the benefit of being fully read... you are not only insulting the poster's intelligence but your own as well. If you are going into said thread with a closed mind, you are doing the same.

The third step is deciding whether to respond to a thread topic that you've thoroughly and objectively read. (If you haven't done this... chances are that you probably shouldn't be responding)

The fourth step is deciding what kind of response you are going to give.


Part 2 - /yes vs. /no

this is comparing apples to oranges.

If the OP posts and details a topic and someone /yesses it... then that's pretty much the end of the discussion between the OP and that particular responder; the responder is echoing what the OP stated and it would be redundant for the responder to regurgitate the OP.

When the OP posts and details a topic and someone /noes it, it creates questions that the OP or other casual readers may want answered. Once you have gone out of your way to enter a thread, read it and respond... expect to provide an explanation for your response if it's bound to bring up questions.


Part 3. - The sad thing is:

It's the usual suspects that are getting outraged over this.

They're worried about getting retroactively punished for all of the free passes (in the form of edits and warnings - as opposed to outright bans) they have gotten in the past for things they could've avoided in the first place (had they the mind and discipline to do so)

They are looking for exclusion to (as well as whining about) rules that would apply to them... while playing the role of 'rules lawyers' against other people when attempting to justify their own actions

They are actively showing no regard to the people that have the power to give them (how do they put it) the privilege of posting here and would have you believe that they are acting with maturity and constructivity in mind when they approach the threads of people who lack such power.

They still aggress with the same attitude that they have recently been warned about and warned again... and again.

Good luck buckos, you reap what you sow

Thank you, you've made my dolls more fun to play with



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P.S. There should be no whining about any of this... they've made it easier for you to get arcs and badges you've missed... they've put the starting touches on more character customization, given you new IOs, IO sets and Enhancements, two new powersets, and a halloween event on top of it...

if you're still griping... remember that they're not going to give us everything at once and if that's unsatisfactory... you've got the wrong hobby :P

honestly, I was expecting dual-blades to follow the trend of GoW and HS; chain links and everything

seeing them as fan blades or blades like Tira has in SCIII (or even Bloodrayne styled) - all curved mind you... would've been interesting

the swords weren't bad but they are pretty big

other than that, all I'm really concerned about is how the powerset actually plays

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as far as the willpower screenshots... not really much to see

How about a few clips/short vids for the next set of teasers

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any attack with the proper slotting can be pretty nasty; try slotting up swipe with all available procs... 2-slot Pounding Slugfest