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Psion, Invul gets trounced by everything not smashing/lethal. A person that lists Spines/Regen and BS/Regen as their two characters will get laughed at if they start calling Invulns easymode. You get IH in Sirens cmon!


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The whole issue with this thread is one of perspective.

Most of the folks looking at this thread are looking at SHW duels.



However Takai is built for 1v1 and Sirens is the only active zone on Justice so much of the discussion from the folks who know him in this thread is in regards to that.


Or as its know to the l33t "LOL fight club" Nive.


Since Takai is all Lethal save sands of mu or IO' Procs (if he has em) Then /Invul is the best to kill him with brute side assuredly because you will out last his burst due to your resistance.

I know this from experiance on a 7 level lower SS/inv brute thats wasted him in Sirens 3 times 1v1. Also my brute lacks Aid self in Sirens.


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Oooook...

Why dont you try facing one of my IOed melee toons with your 'decent' buildz skillz'?

My BS/Regen has ate the last 4 Blappers for breakfast...care to be the 5th?

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No moving, insps, buffs, temps, or tier 9s right?

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Moving is fine, insps is optional temps and tier9's are not my choice personally in LOL fightclub.


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Sowwy I roll decent builds ;_;

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Not For LoL fight club you dont.

Well there is godmode.exe but hes young yet.

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And to add to the lulz factor of Psi's post..

I have had my [censored] kicked on my *Easy Win* brute by plenty of Spines/Regens.

Some have even managed to kick my [censored] while still kiting.

ur build just sux.

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Don't forget the Skill or IO's involved in those who did beat you kiting Candle as without either of the above it should never have occured with your resists, 2 heals and experiance.


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What ol Candleschtick fails to mention here while he's beating his own drum is that he actually lost to Tiger the day before, then made it up by beating him twice afterwards the next day. Ive now had at least 2 people tell me this is the case.

Also- Im rather careful with the word 'skill' around Candle, Zen- an Invul Brute with the Dull Pain/Aide Self build is about the easiest build to play in the game, and one of the hardest to out-DPS the defenses.

Ill give him credit for slotting a build thats about as carbon copy as it gets, but thats about as far as it goes.....

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ur a spines/Regen that runs at the slightest wiff of a challenge.

gfy.

And no, I never lost to this guy. Blood beat him 4-0.

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Translation: "Since you wont sit still and let me pound on you-even though when you did Ive never killed you straight up- you run from what I deem are 'challenges.' (Even though you and I both know a Spines/Regen wont out-damage my resistances and my cake eater 'easy button' build. Damn you for playing smart and gaining tons of rep and bounty each time you set foot in the zone-even when Im there."

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A spines/regen calling a stone/invul brute an 'easy button', some classic lulz up in here.

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FACT

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Depending on the player and levels and builds involved this is definatley on average gonna learn to the spineys favor.

However the resist in invuln combined with Aid self and DP and the fact that Stone is one of the best to take on a regen with could make this fight even or in the hands of a good Stone invl brute weighed in thier favor since a good brawl to shut of IH and the one good round of smash when a regen misses a click is all it takes folks...

This fight particularily in LOL 1v1 Fightclub is never a given in Sirens and below I can tell you that as Fact.


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zen props to you, you faked this whole "scrappers are good at pvp" thing and it is getting you a huge post count, srsly, you gone n' figured out the system yo.

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13 pages in the thread 5 of them zen shadow. nice.

WHat were we talking about?

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pilz = no skilz

lrn2fightclub nub

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Thats not my take Con my boy thats yours.

My take is inps are fine if the oppenant needs em and doesn't like Build vs Build fights.

I just prefer LOLFightclub and I don't come down on those who don't as if they don't know how to play.

It's a matter of personal taste IMHO and both styles can show pvp skills and the lack thereof.


P.S. I blame Con.


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zen props to you, you faked this whole "scrappers are good at pvp" thing and it is getting you a huge post count, srsly, you gone n' figured out the system yo.

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+1 multiplier.

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13 pages in the thread 5 of them zen shadow. nice.

WHat were we talking about?

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6 ftw!


Zen

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zen props to you, you faked this whole "scrappers are good at pvp" thing and it is getting you a huge post count, srsly, you gone n' figured out the system yo.

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+1 multiplier.

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I wanna Cast Magic Missle...

I'm Getting Drunk.....


Are there any Girls here?


Lighting Bolt....

Sleep ... Sleep...


Rez pls.


Zen

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lolfightclub

lolscrubs

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LOL at the use of the word scrubs.

It's 2008 dude that TLC song came out in 1999.

Get some new attempts at online insults and knock off the weaksauce.


Zen.

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I believe you mean LOL at the use of the word putz.

This isnt the 50s.

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technically, if you really want to get down to it, the term 'scrubs' meaning an ameteur or newbie, came from magic: the gathering. new players would use a card called scrubland and were laughed at because this card (meaning they were using a black and white colored deck) at the time it came out was as worthless as the color combo of their deck makeup. the more you know

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Interesting information that.

Word still blows chunks in a MMO.

There are a lot of lame l33t speak words and terms that get tossed around and over used Scrubs doesn't need to join the ranks of Nub/Owned/Pwned/Noob etc. Really they all have about the combined style and talent of staying in the public eye while being a complete waste of time as Britney Spears.




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well i do love fig newtons.

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They are rather good at times yes.


Zen

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zen props to you, you faked this whole "scrappers are good at pvp" thing and it is getting you a huge post count, srsly, you gone n' figured out the system yo.

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Does reverse Psychology work on your oppenants in pvp on your server?

Cause its wasted on me.


Also I could give a fig about post count since I've been around since coh beta and this is my 3rd account for the forums.

Post count = beans to me.

I just tend to post in flurries about things I give a fig about.

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Scrubs ain't got nothing to do with TLC in this case.

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Ok I played street fight 2 champion editon all the time man and I rocked at Guile, Ehonda and Blanka.

Never once did I hear anyone back then in the arcades or at home call thier oppenant a scrub.

Even if this Jive version of Scrub is what is meant rather then the concept in TLCS song (which is not that far off as its about a never do well loser whos a mooch) It is still a lamesauce attempt at an insult IMHO.


Zen.

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lolfightclub

lolscrubs

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LOL at the use of the word scrubs.

It's 2008 dude that TLC song came out in 1999.

Get some new attempts at online insults and knock off the weaksauce.


Zen.

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I believe you mean LOL at the use of the word putz.

This isnt the 50s.

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Ahh but who else uses putz I ask you?

I mean seriously

Putz>scrub folks

The only folks funny enough to use scrub are the black diplos seriously now.


And hey I am Bringing Putzy back

Zen

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I hope this is someone's second account...

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Its not.

Hes very, very real

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Hes also pretty good for a fight clubber or a 1v1 anyhow.

The build is good but frighteningly click intensive for my tastes.

Being Regen Slows and - regen is its downfall in Sirens and below in WB or with IO's or Hamis the Em stun can muck it up in fight club too.

But the guy does indeed have some wicked DPS and healing in a 1v1.

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Im not saying at all that he doesnt have an expensive build. Ive honestly seen only 1 of his duels, and it was right before I killed the dom sitting next to him.

He may be decent, but you know my stance on 1v1 fightclubs.

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Aye Fair enough I do know your stance and you have every right to it.

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holyzenshadowscrub spam

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LOL yeah get used to it I 6 slotted "flurry post" power pool captian 90's.




Zen

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300 million in io to be a good dueling build in sirens, against melee only toons. I guess if melee only fights in sirens rocks your socks whatever, but in real pvp against ranged damage it will never and I mean NEVER have the burst to put someone down. Hell if the brute can even kite half way decent it pretty much wrecks the set. Keep on pumping it up though, just don't expect many that don't need fake rules to pvp to believe you.

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Any non em Brute that is kiting a lot is playing a dangerous game to begin with.

What I love is no one poops on your LOL ranged insp popping playing but you feel a genuine need to be a putz to people who just happen to like LOL fight clubs.

Get yourself a little more openminded perspective man.


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I seem to be openminded enough to not add actifical rules to my play, perhaps you are the one in need of expanding your own views. Perhaps there is a reason no one poops on my LOL ranged insp popping playing, maybe you should try it some time.

As an aside, the reason I posted agasint this is because the lsat thing someone needs to find when looking for pvp advice is to see a OMG DB IS UBER post and believe it. If the OP had simply stated I do good in fightclubs instead of some chest thumping I will kill you all post I would have let it slide like so much other trash.

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LOL thats a pretty weak argument man even you outta admit it.


Adding rules is not closed minded and also I don't need to add artifical rules I simply can do either and not say the other side sucks.

I can play both ways decently I am postive that I insp fight and zone fight more then you LOLfight club fight so there is no question as to who's mind is more open between us man.


Also I only take issue with folks who take issue with my particular style of PVP enjoyment so strongheadedly as yourself but then again I like to debate on the boards about as much as I like to fight club so.

Em Shrug.


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lolerz.... hold on a second.

Your trying to make fun of Justice PvP yet you have the title "Freedom Zone PvP" in your sig?

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I'm not trying...I'm doing it. And freedom zone PvP is like the NBA, where justice is high school basketball. And yes, I have toons on justice, so I know from personal experience.

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Zone and team I hear thats correct.

But wait there is no LOL fightclub on freedom so Forget the NBA weres the UFC Son?

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I actually posted without reading the OP.

Wow, I love this guy.

He is the best 1v1'er on the server.

Beat my Ice/rad 12-0. True story.

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My story with him covers 2 days..

Day 1
*OP* "Hey Blood, wanna duel?"
*Me(Stone/Inv brute) "Sure"

1 minute passes, and sure enough, I beat him without a sweat. Im used to killing regens by timing my attacks to kill them without them getting a chance to pop Recon.

*OP* "Rematch plz"
*Me* "Sure"

Same thing occurs. I beat him easily.

Day 2
*OP* "Zomg, Im the best heir, nobody can b3et meh!"
*Me* "I killed you both times we dueled yesterday"
*OP* "No wai, I pwnd ur fase!"
*Me* "Um.. No you didn't, but just to prove it, why don't you duel me again"

We duel another 2 times. Both times ended up with him dead.

In think its safe to say..

DB/Regen sucks.

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Nah thats going to far.

It is safe to say one of your skill with /inv and 2 heals on a good brute can take it though Candle.

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I know plenty of Scrappers, Brutes, and Tanks that do nothing but duel melee toons in Sirens on Justice..its actually a pretty popular sub culture in there now.

And Conflict- just save it man....I've read multiple threads today where you put your 2 cents in, and it sounds like you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about in any instance.

Tiger doesnt have a 300 mill IO build and he dominated the Brutes he's faced thus far in there from the duels I saw- and what- hes like 13? What would that mean for someone who actually knew how to put one together? THink about that for a minute...

You showed your intelligence level the minute you brought up a Brute 'kiting'....very effective way to build Fury eh? Any Regen would laugh at a kiting Brute, as theyre not going to kill much at all.

Thats actually very funny....funnier than anything Tiger has said in this thread....



People can believe whatever the hell they want to believe...Those Brutes 'believed' that Tiger was a joke the other day before he put most of them on the floor....I wasnt the only one that saw it.

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This, my friends, is the average Justice player posting.

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So where do you place yourself in that regard? The Siren's fight club thing can get silly, but its better than brown nosing to the Test pvpers.

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QFT


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People can believe whatever the hell they want to believe...Those Brutes 'believed' that Tiger was a joke the other day before he put most of them on the floor....I wasnt the only one that saw it.

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Again good against brutes in sirens doesn't make this a good pvp set, but really believe what you need to.

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It does make it a good pvp set in 1v1 pvp in sirens Con.

That is indeed a segment of pvp man, its just not your bag or the domain of the majority of the l33t pvpers in this game.

That does not mean its not a good pvp set.

After all what is a "good pvp set" is actually determined by the player and their specific goals.

For example:

Since you and I are both on LOL Justice:

"Giggies" thinks hes really good in pvp, he likely in his own mind has the perfect build.

A 3 layer stealth flight+TP +Phase + Demonic kill/KS/ and Escape build.

This build nets one a lot of kills but little actual respect for the most part.

And I am sure there are many would agree that's good pvp.

To me that's weaksauce gun and run build but I am smart enough to recognize that as just my opinon.

After all the guy is pulling off exactly what he set out to pull off so who am I to say thats not good pvp?






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300 million in io to be a good dueling build in sirens, against melee only toons. I guess if melee only fights in sirens rocks your socks whatever, but in real pvp against ranged damage it will never and I mean NEVER have the burst to put someone down. Hell if the brute can even kite half way decent it pretty much wrecks the set. Keep on pumping it up though, just don't expect many that don't need fake rules to pvp to believe you.

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Any non em Brute that is kiting a lot is playing a dangerous game to begin with.

What I love is no one poops on your LOL ranged insp popping playing but you feel a genuine need to be a putz to people who just happen to like LOL fight clubs.

Get yourself a little more openminded perspective man.


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You know, as funny as this thread is, I actually have to give ol Tiger an ounce of credit here, illiterate as he may be....

I happened to be in Sirens last weekend when he beat 6 straight Brutes in duels and 2-3 Stalks to boot, then came back an beat about 3 more Brutes after lunch...

A couple of the Brutes are pretty respectable PvPers with IOed out Sirens builds, so I cant discount the guy completely. With the right slotting and a lot of money, an IOed out DBer could make some of the guys posting in this thread look pretty stupid.

The problem is folks are not familiar with it because of it's 'newness', and there are very few people that have actually put 300-450 mill into an IO build to shut people up who constantly bash it without knowing what the hell theyre talking about.

Im smart enough to admit that it can be viable with the right build set up and IO purchases, at least in Sirens duels...In the arena, ehhh, I still need to see more, and I'll be testing it out soon to gauge about 3 different IO builds like I always do with my new toons....


Those that know me well enough know that I wont ever piss on an AT or powerset....theres too many options now with IO's to really shake things up and make really innovative builds that deal death.

When you think about it, I remember many people on these boards laughing at red side TA MM's, yet now theyre FOTM since vills have realized they can eat most of the heros alive in Sirens with a decent build.

Maybe not with Tiger here specifically, but I think many of you would be humbled against the right DB build.....

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Well said thats my experiance with his build too.

I only have one Sirens level Brute that consistantly beats him.


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This is why I play mostly on Freedumb...

Then again, Con is full of it...

I'm kind of split over this thread...

I think I support both sides. I'm Anti-Stupid but also Anti-Con.

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LOL thats hilarious.

It's interesting I too am torn on this thread but I am not so anti Con persay but I do find it humorus that the majority of those who LOL at Fight Clubs (AKA the house rules duels or 1v1's that tend to be things like no insps) are those who tend to play or slot toons that would be no good in LOL fight clubs anyhow.

Actually it all makes perfect sense now that I think on it.


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Its not.

Hes very, very real

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Hes also pretty good for a fight clubber or a 1v1 anyhow.

The build is good but frighteningly click intensive for my tastes.

Being Regen Slows and - regen is its downfall in Sirens and below in WB or with IO's or Hamis the Em stun can muck it up in fight club too.

But the guy does indeed have some wicked DPS and healing in a 1v1.

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lolfightclub

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LOL at the use of the word scrubs.

It's 2008 dude that TLC song came out in 1999.

Get some new attempts at online insults and knock off the weaksauce.


Zen.