XxBudweiser8xX

Originally Posted by Artic_Chill_44

Good Luck have fun Outcastz!

Originally Posted by WarScribe

1. Lol pushing your battle onto Artic, Wtg!
2. When Am I on Champion talkin in Arena chat? Or claim to be the best? Links or logs, or some kind of proof pls.
3. After you and Elf fight us tonight, I'd be more than happy to fight you, since thats what I said in this thread, I want to 1v1 you. Sure.

Originally Posted by WarScribe

I just want to fight the best on champion .
Sorry.

Originally Posted by WarScribe

I don't have your vent info, don't need or want it, and Vent is besides the point. You can bring whatever person you want to team with ( or who wants to team with you for that matter..), and we'll be in Pocket D at 9pm EST.

**EDIT**

In all honesty, I reaaaaaaaally want to fight you and Bud. Is his internets not big enough to join you in a 2v2?

Originally Posted by Undead_Cyborg

Bump Bumpty Bump

On a side note the word must be out. I have seen alot of new people on our Vent. During Kickballs and Zone PvP it gets packed.

Hope to hear from you all soon, thank you.

Originally Posted by CriticalKat

Being you seem to get off on publicly challenging me here are your answers.

1. We volunteer to be PvPEC reps. There is no voting. There also is no long line of people waiting to volunteer.

2. Your applications were ignored by me. If I felt for one minute that either one of you were sincere in wanting to run events for the community and would follow the PvPEC rules which includes not causing drama, not trolling people, adhering to the EULA and respecting all other players including other PvPEC reps and including me you wouldn't have been ignored.

3. When both of your volunteered once, not several times as you claimed was the day after being banned by me from PvPEC events at all. As someone pointed out on that thread in question that sorta disqualifies you from participating in the PvPEC now doesn't it?

4. I let you back in to participating on your word that the drama was over and past history was squashed. However from day one your posts have been challenging me and at points totally disrespecting me to say the least. Your tells to me in game have been rude, demanding and simply being a ******** for no reason. Also do not think for one minute the other PvPEC reps that you have threatened, verbally assaulted and have treated badly has went unnoticed either.

5. If it wasn't for your team members who are just here to have fun I would probably put myself out of my own misery and just ban you again. I am trying to be the bigger person here though but to be blunt you are a dikk hairs length away from riding my very last nerve. I know you don't care so keep being passive aggressive and it will be what it is.

6. I decide who joins the PvPEC. I also decide how I am going to run the events that I volunteer my time to run. Don't like it then keep it moving to events that you do like how they are ran, or since you are so community oriented, run some yourself with your rules your way.

7. I don't plan on banning you simply because you are rude or nasty to me. However I will put you and your 234234 accounts on ignore and then when you need to ask me a question that are legitimate you will get no response. It will also mean you get no vote as a Captain on issues. So your choice how you handle this from now on big boy.

Originally Posted by Neuronia

I don't think there's a vote Bud, though I'll gladly be corrected.

You volunteer, run events and try to grow PvP interest.
Kat is running this, and overlooking other server events.

Originally Posted by CriticalKat

There are dozens of questions and posts I should probably respond to but ya no what, I refuse. I refuse to continue to debate the same ole BS every day. I do not volunteer my time to deal with drama. I didn't create the league or any other pvp event to cater to people who's only reason for participating is to win, regardless of what you have to do or say to make it happen. Bad sportsmanship is a pet peeve of mine that I don't cater to, period.

If you are in 32423423 place and feel like you should be in 1st and you are not happy and enjoying yourself in participating GTFO. It really is that simple at this point.

Every single team that feels like they were jipped out of points has absolutely NO ONE to blame but themselves. Yes I will admit my initial point system was not the best it could be regardless of my good intentions of simply trying to solve the problem of tie playing teams. However that point system was in black and white and you agreed to it when you joined. Not only that but PerilX quoted the flawed point system out before one single match occurred right here in this thread and not one single Captain made a motion to change it. It wasn't important enough to warrant a change until it was your team that was affected by the ties.

Also to be quite blunt (and this doesn't apply to everyone that has ties now) but when you bring a "safe" lineup that includes 2-3 healers or tanks in a freaking THREE VS. THREE the last thing you should expect anyone to feel is sorrow for you for getting a tie. Perhaps you weren't trying to get a tie but you damn sure knew your lineup was increasing the chances of it happening and you chose to bring it anyways so deal with it.

Now on to the voting issue. First of all enough votes are in on the motion to take ties out of the game. The answer is no. With that being said below is a short list of topics that votes are not allowed on any more. I wanted to be reasonable and not come across as a tyrant and allow Captains some voice in the event but too many personal agenda's that are not for the better of the entire league and only about their own teams winning are shining through.

No more vote motions accepted on the following changes.

• CHANGING THE POINT SYSTEM
• LIMITING AT'S OR BUILD TYPES
• LIMITING MAPS
• TIES
• SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS TO RULES FOR INDIVIDUALS
• ANYTHING BEING RETROACTIVE. (UNLESS OF COURSE ITS IN REGARDS TO ALL OF YOU BEING MY PERSONAL CYBORZ SLAVES, THEN OF COURSE ITS RETROACTIVE.)

Now I am going to make one more rule. No more motions for votes on any topic unless you have a minimum of 2 other Captains in favor of supporting it. That means those 2 other Captains and you must send me a p.m. with the same motion proposal. Other wise don't waste my time or the other people in the leagues time who are just here to have fun with vote issues that have no support.

P.S. I really don't want to hear about "everyone" on vent agreed to this issue or that issue. People apparently feel making others think they agree with them is more important than keeping it real because every single vote that supposedly had certain people supporting it, didn't. Just because they are your friends on vent and nod their head when you are raging doesn't mean they ACTUALLY agree with you. Reality check.

Originally Posted by XxBudweiser8xX

so your saying you think a team that has 5wins, 4 loss, should be in first place, where as a team that has 5 wins, 1 loss, 3 ties, should be in 5th? Could you explain the sence there?
Obviously you cant. and the reason is simple and this is also the reason we should end this discussion here....
The points system was flawed from the start, I, as well as many others saw it, said something about it in vent, others agreed, yet we said nothing. WE chose to go ahead and start playing with things as they were. We could have, (should have) said "no, wait, we need to re-look at this point structure before we start" But WE chose not to. Answers simple, we only have ourselves to blame. Play on and hope for the best is all we can do. no matter the out come, This has been a fun filled experience over all for I hope everyone.

Originally Posted by Alpha_Zulu

I'm not for or against any retroactive changes to the rules. If there's going to be any "retro" changes, how about we see the submitted changes before I say "yes" or "no" to them.

Originally Posted by Neuronia

This, please.

Kat, please limit captain proposals to one per league month so that we get past the trivial/discussable stuff. Pretty much the important stuff has been covered:

-Stalker Limit
-Map selections
-More points for wins




Yes!
People:

YOU WILL WIN GAMES. Sometimes you'll steal games, sometimes you'll be on your game, sometimes you'll lose. The gap isn't that large. Just play to win.

The last place team can go to 24 points with 3 wins next week. If they keep winning they'll be in contention.

Let's not re-do the point system and tie system every freaking week because people aren't happy with their placement.

Seriously.




No way on starting over, from A&C.

Did you not see how long this season is? It could end around the December holidays. Is anyone really going to stick around here on a Saturday during that 3-4 week period?

Besides, even if the season did restart, what will that do? The teams that have a lot of practice together and work together will do well, the teams with less practice and so on will need work.

You want to do things right?

Win.
It's the only way to get where you want to be.

Originally Posted by GFunny

this looks proper ... Its actually depicting the way the standings SHOULD look. The points now would reflect properly over a 3 week season.

Originally Posted by GFunny

I need someone to explain to me, with all the point changes and no retro-active distributions or grandfather rules, why is it that my team has fought 9 matches and lost only 1 yet we are in second to last place?

Does this seem absolutely retarded to anyone sles, i mean really? 1 loss and because of some rule changes that doent change any history, my team is virtually LAST! This doesnt seem stupid to any of the other captains or anyone with any common sense?

Please, someone speak up so i dont feel like im losing my F'n mind ...